Midlife Uncensored

What is Midlife and Why so Many People Avoid the Topic all Together

Joel Poppert Season 1 Episode 39

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Ever wondered what truly defines being "over the hill"? Is it just another number or something more profound? In this episode of Midlife Uncensored, Joel Poppert and Emanuela Messineo, also known as "Amalfi Pie," tackle this provocative question with humor and candor. From dining escapades at new local hotspots to volunteering with adorable Great Danes, our journey through midlife is anything but mundane. We invite you to challenge the stereotypes and embrace the wisdom, authenticity, and humor that come with this transformative stage of life. Buckle up for a ride that promises laughter and reflection!

Midlife often prompts us to reassess and redefine our goals and priorities. We dive into personal stories of life's unpredictable turns, like dealing with the loss of a loved one or navigating divorce, and how these events can catalyze profound personal growth. We peel back the layers on the common misconceptions of aging, encouraging listeners to view this phase as an opportunity for self-discovery and authenticity. From navigating the realities of menopause to the unexpected joy of parenthood later in life, our candid conversations aim to shift perceptions and inspire appreciation for the maturity and depth that midlife can bring.

Our exploration of midlife wouldn't be complete without discussing the quirks and peculiarities that accompany physical aging. Joel and Emanuela share personal anecdotes about adapting fitness routines to suit our evolving bodies, navigating heightened scent sensitivities, and even the hilarity of neighborhood watch antics. As we prepare for upcoming festivities like Halloween and Thanksgiving, this episode wraps up with a sense of excitement and gratitude, recognizing the joy in shared experiences and the little victories that come with embracing this vibrant stage of life. Join us for a relatable and entertaining look at what it means to truly live uncensored in midlife.

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Speaker 1:

All right, all right, all right. Welcome to another episode of Midlife Uncensored real talk from over the hill. This is your favorite friendly Sasquatch with the epic beard game, poppy, aka Joel Poppert, and Emanuela Messineo, also known as E. Also known as the Sausage Queen.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I have a new nickname I'm going to share with you Another one.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's better than the Sausage Queen queen?

Speaker 2:

no, it's right up there, I don't know. Yeah, I think we could. It just depends on what the context is are you gonna share it?

Speaker 1:

yeah, a moffy pie a moffy pie like the amalfi coast how did you get that one?

Speaker 2:

there's a pizza at gusto the italian place over here at Sloan's Lake that has an Amalfi Pie pizza.

Speaker 1:

There's an Italian restaurant in Sloan's Lake.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it just opened, not that long ago. So do you know the oh my gosh, what I am forgetting? Shoot, they own both restaurants. They share a kitchen. It's right at, like the corner where the patio is, but like over another block, so I think it's on like the first floor of it's a condo building. Do you know what I'm talking about?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think I have seen that actually there's a taco place over there too, isn't there?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but this is like on 17th.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

So the taco place is closer to Tappenberger.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, anyway. So yes, there's an Italian place. It's good. They import a lot of their stuff from Italy and I actually tried their gluten-free pizza. It was pretty darn good.

Speaker 1:

That sounds good.

Speaker 2:

Props to Gusto.

Speaker 1:

I'll have to check it out. I always forget there's restaurants over on that part of 17th.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, this little the other side, I forget what it's called. It's also really good, totally different style food. But anyways, that's not what we're here for. I will. What is the name of this, though? It's going to drive me nuts Chalone. There's one of those downtown. I don't know if there's another one of Gusteau or not.

Speaker 1:

I want to check it out.

Speaker 2:

Chillon's really good. Anyways, it's a cool spot. It's a good date night spot. Either one of them they're cute, they're pretty small inside Make a reservation and yeah, their food's good, it's good. It's gotta be pretty serious. I mean to make a reservation for a date. Well, it's just because they're small, so like, unless you're coming over to restaurantel papi, yeah, that's funny, um. So anyways, um, my good friend blake was with us for dinner and he was like this should be your nickname amalfi pie amalfi pie I like it so that's the other option.

Speaker 2:

All of it profiles I mean, apparently they all have to be food related for them to apply to me.

Speaker 1:

So I like it well.

Speaker 2:

Mesa is making another appearance here today yeah, she's got a tail wagging tails wagon she's got a big old smile on her face.

Speaker 1:

Such a treat, whore she is, she's over the hill too she's food motivated.

Speaker 2:

I mean, is she? Yeah, she's probably more than we are, but oh my gosh she's jumping on you. I just started, um, I just signed up to volunteer with a great dane rescue organization and it's a good thing I have a lot of travel coming up, because I'm pretty sure I would end up with a Great Dane if I didn't.

Speaker 1:

That'd be a big dog in that apartment.

Speaker 2:

I know.

Speaker 1:

It's not that your apartment's small, it's just that it's lots of stories.

Speaker 2:

It would be hard for a Great Dane. I think it was pretty hard for Riley and he wasn't quite as big as a great Dane but should we? Well, what's been going on? Do you want to like? We have yeah let's go.

Speaker 1:

We're going to be short and sweet. I think when this comes out we're it'll be in early November, but it's almost your Halloween party. It's how it's almost Halloween. Next Thursday is Halloween. Yeah, this one will be dropping on election day, so we're not going to talk any more about politics. We did it in the one episode, not much. I've been just working and trying to figure out what to do at the end of the year and yeah, I mean it's what? So we kind of picked this topic today. What kind of came out of it is? I was on a date the other day with a girl that's our age, exactly 44, and this has been the common theme. You know how we used to suffer from the title of the only loan podcast and people like didn't want to associate themselves with being alone. I really understand like not everybody understood that sort of concept of what I was trying, what we were trying to do there. Now we suffer from the. I don't want to acknowledge that.

Speaker 2:

I'm midlife or over the hill.

Speaker 1:

So we decided we would have an episode about what it means to be over the hill and try to take, I guess, a little bit of the negative connotation away from it.

Speaker 2:

But I am blown away, like we're like the only two people that have accepted that.

Speaker 1:

like we're middle age, I, you know. If you want to be in the literal sense, I think we could ask Chachi GPT, but I assume that I think that you know the average lifespan of a human being in America is, let's just say, 80. So over the hill is 40 from a literal mathematics standpoint. Is 40 from a literal mathematics standpoint? But I think from a personal standpoint, I think it's. I think that's the discussion we'll talk about today is what is it? What does it mean? What is over the hill? What does it mean? Is it just age? Is it when your body aches all the time? Is it, you know, when you give less fucks? I mean there's pros and cons to it, but yeah, let's talk about that. What does she say?

Speaker 2:

It's like forties to sixties is what she says and clearly, since I can't read very well, cause I'm going to say I'm dyslexic uh, midlife is generally considered the period between early forties and six mid sixties, though it can be very individual. It can vary. Gc, I can't read.

Speaker 1:

Yeah Well, I mean, I think it aligns with we sort of target 35 to 55 year olds.

Speaker 2:

Oh. This phase is often marked by a mix of reflection on past choices and excitement for new opportunities. People in midlife might reassess their personal and career goals, relationships, lifestyles, sometimes leading to well-known midlife crisis.

Speaker 1:

So for me, my midlife started with my crisis, right so you know.

Speaker 2:

And didn't you? Wasn't like sort of the death of your dad kind of triggered that for you?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it was the sort of trifecta you know, the death of your dad kind of triggered that for you. Yeah, it was the sort of trifecta you know the death of my dad, my midlife crisis, which was really associated with my relationship and my career and just like not, I guess, feeling like I was doing the things I thought I should do, and then realizing the things I thought I should be doing were all the wrong things anyway. So and so I had divorced, a sudden death in the family, my father and then just like coming out of it, and just coming out of it and giving up, I mean, I got rid of, I unloaded a bunch of shit and just left it. Wherever I left it Costa Rica, wherever it was I just left it, it's all gone, the politics, the anxiety, the overthinking, the you know and then just started to reflect and like very much, uh, very much, was excited to lean into midlife, I guess.

Speaker 1:

Like, so I don't see midlife, I know, over the hill is just funny. I think it's funny, I think it's a funny term, I think it's fun to use for the podcast and I but like I think a lot of it might come from, like maybe when we were kids when our parents were having remember like the over the hill cards and the like it was, everybody had like a. Well, usually it was the men that had 40 year old birthday parties, like over the hill Cause the women apparently never wanted to like acknowledge they were 40, so like they just skipped that birthday party.

Speaker 1:

That's what I remember when I was a kid, but I remember my dad's 40th birthday party and over the hill and blah, blah.

Speaker 2:

So I almost don't even. Somebody was turning 50 and I was like I didn't even think I saw something I don't know if it was a card or whatever it was and it referenced over the hill and I was like really I don't know, I guess to me it just seems pretty young at this point, Like I feel like 50.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, well, I mean, that's because we're associating over the hill with old I know, and that's where it gets old, I and that's where it gets old, I think it's uh, I think, if you haven't acknowledged, that you're in the second half of your life by the time you're 40, then I think you're let's talk about denial Like.

Speaker 1:

Let's talk about are you actually like? Because it's not about being old, it's about getting your shit together and making sure at least check in and make sure you're doing what you wanted to do, or what you wanted to do, or you're like are you being somebody? You're not. You don't want to be early Like you, true to yourself, are you giving too much fucks about things you shouldn't fuck because of your 50 and you don't believe you're in? You don't believe you've crossed over the hill?

Speaker 1:

Then you may be living like a maybe you're still living a fucking fake life. I don't know.

Speaker 2:

It's weird that some of the terms Does that make sense?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I totally agree with you. I also think it's yeah, there's just like sometimes negative connotations. As we're even just saying these words, I feel like I like midlife better than I like middle-aged Right. I don't know why I'm like middle-aged Ew. I just don't like that term. It's also really, at the end of the day, we're just adulting, we're maturing, we're coming into our own Right, like there's nothing wrong with that. But there is, I think, a connotation that we're like old and I mean old is relative.

Speaker 2:

I am old to my niece, so yeah, right.

Speaker 1:

I am old to my friend's Sophie. I am old to my friend's kids.

Speaker 2:

I am old in Rhino neighborhood after 10 pm.

Speaker 1:

I'm old to you because I'm six months older than you but I'm still my mom's baby boy and you know it's old is relative and I think, yeah, let's be really clear, like we're not necessarily saying you're old. I like to refer to myself as old because I just do that sometimes, cause I think it gives me an excuse for my, for some of my pretty well-defined habits and routines. And staying in at nine o'clock or, you know, staying in after nine or not going out on a Friday night, like these are all things I'm just fine with and that makes me old. Then then it makes me old, but I don't want people to sit around that are listening to this and be like, oh, I somehow joined the old man's club, like that's not what we're advocating for. If anything, we're advocating for people to just be way better human beings and more laid back about, I guess you know. And what a great time to be alive.

Speaker 1:

You're healthy and you're smart and like and, and just you kind of figured out a lot of stuff, yeah.

Speaker 2:

I think it goes back to, though, even the owning alone term Right Like alone, lonely Like there's just weird, you know, people can maybe just like apply some negative connotations to these terms. So you know that's all right, though let's redefine it. I think it's just it's a good thing. I don't there's, I don't know. I'm happy with who I am, where I am, my age, where, how I look, all the things, so I'm good with it.

Speaker 1:

I'm good with it too. I like my beard.

Speaker 2:

And I think my beard keeps getting better. I like my beard, I like the salt and pepper in my beard, the only thing I don't like is the amount of gray hair I have to cover up all the time. That is the only thing I would say really could do without.

Speaker 1:

There's maybe some other things, but I don't have a lot of hair, yeah anyways, that's all right though I think that's pretty common, though, for women to start getting gray hair in their 40s yeah but and men don't lose their hair I'll take it, it's all good yeah, but you're definitely over the hill once you get a, once you uh, once you have to start going in for your annual uh, I don't know if it's annual or every five years when you get the probe up the butt.

Speaker 2:

Oh, the colonoscopy.

Speaker 1:

The colonoscopy, I think that's a pretty good indicator that you're getting there.

Speaker 2:

Wait, is it over 40 for men?

Speaker 1:

45.

Speaker 2:

45? Oh, is it for women too? I don't know. Okay, we have to start mammograms at 40, which they basically just like put your boob on a plate and then squeeze your other thing. Yeah, they squeeze it in. You gotta like stand at a weird angle, put your arm over there and then they squeeze it.

Speaker 1:

I don't know, do they do men? They do that to men too, because there's men that have pretty big boobs too actually I think men are.

Speaker 2:

I think there's like a lot of men that get breast cancer. I mean because you still have breast tissue even if you don't have like boobs, yeah, but I don't think that's like a I I don't know. I'm assuming you don't get scanned for that yeah but like women, I mean from like an early age, we're supposed to like check that you know, look for. Well, I think for men too, unless you're like really overweight. You probably would feel the you'd be pretty easy to feel a lump yeah I'm just making that up.

Speaker 1:

I'm not an actual medical professional. Um, but yeah, getting older, um over the hill, mid. Midlife.

Speaker 2:

Well, that's another thing. You know, you have to get your boobs smashed every year you have to get your boobs smashed.

Speaker 1:

But I guess it just brings up the point of how many people haven't really thought. I mean, I guess maybe we're just unique in the sense that we have this podcast called Midlife Uncensored, that like we've actually sat around and give it some thought. I also think we're unique in the sense a little bit unique in the sense that, like you and I have a lot more time than I think, than our peers without kids, and you know all the chaos of all that stuff. So I, you know I'm already an overthinker. I always have been. But the amount of time is probably one of my greatest strengths and weaknesses is having the amount of time I have. So I sit around and think about these things and I think, and I do have my. I think my number one anxiety is like this race to do the things I want to do.

Speaker 2:

What are some of those things? Do you kind of?

Speaker 1:

I just I haven't traveled nearly as much as I want to, and I don't want to do it all when I'm over 60.

Speaker 2:

So traveling, you know what are you doing to make that happen?

Speaker 1:

Well, I'm working really hard so that I can start taking more time off and going, I think 2025,. I've got a couple of trips planned. I'm going to try to go to Barcelona, columbia, for sure, maybe go sailing with my buddy and then, uh, you know, career wise. So I have some big moves I'm making here for 2025, which I'm not gonna talk about on the podcast, but, uh, trying to diversify my career, get into some things. I'm I mean, I'll have the experience, I think, to provide value, to, obviously, like, make my company a little bit more robust and more profitable.

Speaker 2:

Awesome. So, do you think you'll talk about that a little bit more next year once you're actually like putting some of that?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, no, I'll talk more about it. I mean, I'm probably going to launch another company here January.

Speaker 1:

That'll just be me for now and I and it's basically going to be I'm going to put myself out there in different industries that you know and just start to, just to start to provide value. I have a lot of information and capabilities in my head that I think I can provide value to multiple other capital markets arenas, or at least try to prove myself. I'm a eat what you kill kind of guy, so I'm easy to pick up. You don't have to really pay me, unless I succeed. So, yeah, no, I'm excited for that. What about you?

Speaker 2:

What's the question? What about you? What's the question? What about me? What's been happening or what's I'm like? Where are we going? Why do I always have to ask you what the question is?

Speaker 1:

I don't know, I got to like rewind. I think the question was you know, just fuck, I don't remember what I asked.

Speaker 2:

That's okay. I don't remember how I got there, I know.

Speaker 1:

That's all what I asked how I ever got there. But like traveling and doing things that you want to do.

Speaker 1:

Still, I guess it started with me talking about. You know, I feel this sort of race like I've told you this I think I've talked about it on past episodes of the only lone podcast is I lost my, the two, the two significant male figures in my family where my mom's father, my grandfather, died at 71 or 72 of a brain aneurysm and my dad died at 72 of a brain aneurysm. It's not genetic, which people don't ever believe me, but I'm like, well, my grandfather and my father weren't related. It's not genetic, it's usually has something to do with it just happens. It can be medication related or it can be maybe there's a prior head injury or something. But it's not so much how they died, it's the age. Yeah, and then you know we don't in my family like the men. There haven't been a lot of men that lived very long, but a lot of that wasn't genetic, it was life choices I guess that they made. So no one really knows, I think.

Speaker 1:

Of all all you know, I'm pretty healthy. I work out and mind kind of what I eat. Maybe I drink a little too much, but not as much as some people. So who knows, you know, maybe I'm not even in midlife yet, but I also, you know, once we hit a certain age, we definitely, it definitely gets a lot harder to be mobile, as I want to be, when I travel and do certain things. And I want to retire in my 50s Not retire, but I want to be financially secure. So I try to balance sort of living my life now and making the money I need so that I don't have to work, I don't have to be forced to work into my 70s or something. But yeah, and then you know, there's still this small part of me. This small part of me whether or not I mean it's the reason I still haven't got a vasectomy is like whether or not I'd have a family, whatever that looks like. So that'd be so weird, like not to like pivot.

Speaker 2:

Not to pivot but like.

Speaker 1:

That's right um, could you imagine waking up tomorrow and having like fucking kids in your house?

Speaker 2:

it's so weird, I don't think it's off.

Speaker 1:

It's not a bad thought, it's just like it would be so weird yeah.

Speaker 2:

So first of all, my dad was 55 when I was born, so I mean that happens. My uncle was 55 when he had his son, so it can certainly happen. I also overheard someone saying that there was somebody, when I was getting my nails done, was talking about taking Ozempic, and then somebody else was chiming in saying that people are getting pregnant on Ozempic. I don't know, it does. I don't know if it voids like your birth control or something, but anyways, somebody and I have not validated this, so do not take this as like truth but they said some woman who was in her sixties or maybe she was 60, got pregnant from that scenario and I'm like, wait a second, how is she not in menopause at that point?

Speaker 1:

It's 60.

Speaker 2:

I mean could you imagine yeah, I mean, I can't imagine being a woman and having a baby. I just am like whoa, that's got to be complicated.

Speaker 1:

It's got to be high risk, I'm sure.

Speaker 2:

I mean you're high risk once you hit your mid-30s and it only goes up from there.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think geriatrics considered like 33, 34.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, something like that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but I think it's more common now for people to have babies in their 30s particularly.

Speaker 2:

But also, like my mom was 36 when I was born, and that was, you know, 44 years ago.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, my friend just had a baby at 40. I mean, I'm pretty darn amazing.

Speaker 2:

So I would say, you know, 36 is a good number to have kids at.

Speaker 1:

It's a.

Speaker 2:

Oh God.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, there's definitely a pool of women in their 30s mid-30s in colorado that are chomping at having one of those.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, um so I think that's like for for women. I feel like it might not that you feel old at that point, but there are decisions you have to make, like pretty big life decisions in your 30irties. You know about stuff like that.

Speaker 1:

So let's talk about that Cause. Maybe that's precursor to midlife, right.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think you were offset a little bit male, and men and women, I think, are a little offset just biologically when it comes to when they feel like they've. I would assume I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume that maybe some women feel like midlife is when menopause starts happening or when they've had their kids or decided not to have kids or can't have kids, like sort of that sort of because that phase of their thirties, late twenties, thirties is it's planning time, it's get your shit together or do what you're going to do, and if you're going to have a family, and then when you come on the other side of that, then midlife is having a family or doing all the things you decided to do without having a family.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I do think menopause can make you feel like you're getting older. I mean, there's just I haven't as far as I know, I'm not there yet there's certainly things that you can notice like sort of changing or just like hormonal things that start happening. I'm not sure that I'm really looking forward to that. I'm sure there are some hormonal changes I'm having at this point. So I don't know, I don't like to take anything, so I don't. I'm not taking like any hormonal, like hormone replacement therapy or whatever. There's a lot of women that do that and I think that can help certainly with some of the like how that feels. But I think that you know, once you start having like hot flashes or like night sweats or whatever all this stuff is that you start having with menopause, it's like would be hard to not feel like you're getting old, you know.

Speaker 1:

Maybe I'm going through menopause. That's why I've been having such a hard time sleeping lately. Fuck man.

Speaker 2:

But yeah, I mean, that could be it, that could be there are definitely.

Speaker 1:

We can ignore them if we want, but there are definitely things happening. There are definitely things happening. There are definitely. The struggle is real once you hit a certain age.

Speaker 1:

I think for me it was like my late 30s is when I started. I mean, I had back problems and stuff and but like the sleeping, the you know, getting creaky, like I've been remodeling, I did all this construction work in my basement, I fucking halt, I like worked really hard. So there's, you know, I think any normal person would have been sore, but yeah, just a little bit longer recovery. Certain things that I try to avoid doing and I'm a big dude, right, so some of the things, but there's definitely.

Speaker 1:

I used to whitewater kayak a lot and I kind of slowed down or stopped just because it was so abusive. I would just get so beat up and it was just not worth the aches and pains after. And everything comes with acclimation, right, like if you really do it. I have a friend right now that just started playing soccer again after years of not playing and like I think she's killing it, but she's also a wreck after every game, you know, and just think our bodies are trying to tell us something. I think as we get older, and and just think our bodies are trying to tell us something. I think as we get older and I think that's a reality of midlife, unless you're one of those super ultra. There's just people that are genetically inferior. Is that the right word? To a lot of us, superior, we're genetically inferior, but they can still run marathons at 97.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I just saw a post from Orange theory that there's a hundred year old woman in denver or in colorado that just took up running and is like I forget what the stat was. I should have saved it, but anyways, she just took up running at like age 100 and was I don't know what she was looking to accomplish, but she's like a regular at Orange Theory. I was like, hey look, I mean that's good. I think what's important is I think it's like hard to build, like it gets harder and harder to build and keep muscle as we get older, like our body starts like sabotaging us a little bit. So I think it's important to just like hang on to whatever you have some good routines and make sure that you're. Hang on to whatever you have some good routines and make sure that you're like lifting some weights and stay, you know, keep moving, that kind of stuff. Yeah, and I would.

Speaker 1:

If there's any younger people listening to this podcast. I would always encourage younger people to get on it early and don't stop.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, Exercise exercise, I think for both of us, is pretty second nature, right, because we're doing it for so long. I've never really taken breaks from being athletic and and the little breaks that I have had to take whether it was a surgery or something like getting back into, it's always such a jog, you know, and I think that's just. It's a habit that you should be forming when you're a child and just don't stop exercises you can cause once you hit our age, you can see it. It's night and day between somebody that ate healthy and exercise their whole life versus people that didn't. They just look, they look 20 years older than us, they're creaky, they've got medical issues and it's only going to get worse as they get older.

Speaker 2:

So that's you know, I've been like dealing with like chronic pain this year just cause I like overdid it between gym and then I was golfing a bunch and whatever and I just like I just overdid it too much and so I've had to like adjust and take a break and do all the like self-care things to address that and it's kind of wild, but I'm going to get back. So I've just been doing like Pilates and walking and stuff like that. So it's like just a little easier on some of my muscles. But I mean, I've definitely lost some muscle. I don't like it. So back to orange theory. I'm going here soon. I think I'm back to like a pretty good spot.

Speaker 1:

So I always thought about doing that. The reform Pilates that you do is intense. I did that for my as part of my physical therapy after my back surgery.

Speaker 2:

It's actually not that bad. I mean I don't the classes I do are not that hard. I don't think I mean some they are. They can be hard and but you can modify them to like whatever you sort of need to do. But for me that one is just more calming, cause there's like a lot of breathing that's like in incorporated into the flow classes and so for me I enjoy that. It's easy on my joints, so it's a nice mix to have in there.

Speaker 2:

It's just hard for me to juggle like all these different memberships like they're really pricey, you know so, and I really really miss orange theory. Like I love the community, I love the people there. I love the community, I love the people there. I love the coaches, I love the workouts. It doesn't always love me, so I think when I go back I just can't do the four or five days a week I was doing before. It's just like too, it's too hard on my body and like the coaches push you, you know like to do more and I need to be better about just like being okay, doing what I know is good for my body. I wanted to bring up I have a couple. I know we're not at the end, but I feel like we could have some good conversation on this. So you know you're getting older when you start using your car seat warmers for your lower back pain rather than to keep you warm. Have you ever done that?

Speaker 1:

I don't have back seat warmers in my car.

Speaker 2:

Oh gosh, that's what. That's right. I feel like if there are any younger people, or even people our age, they're probably like man these. Oh, we talked about our body aches and not sleeping, but it's really not that bad. I just think it's pretty funny.

Speaker 1:

It's not for us, it's for you, it's for our listeners, so that they feel a little better about the stuff they, because we talk about the things that you guys don't want to talk about.

Speaker 2:

So well, and I also, like I, I think there's something to be said about, like when you think about gratitude, practice, like the whole concept behind gratitude is you find and you see what you look for. So I don't necessarily want us to always be like focusing on like the negative, but I do find it pretty funny. All right, so let's see what's the other one. So I posted a picture when I was coming back from my work trip this week and I was like sniffing a bag of something. You said what did you think it was?

Speaker 2:

you thought it was a charcoal filter charcoal filter no so I get a listen to this shit, but it's so. I don't know what this is, why it's happening, but the scent there. I've become super sensitive to strong scents to the point where I I don't know, I don't know what so if I let a silent but dirty go, you won't smell it right away?

Speaker 1:

Oh my God Come on.

Speaker 2:

Don't do that. That's not cool. It's more like the really strong cologne and I don't know what the base is, but it smells like rubbing alcohol, but way stronger. It's like I get almost an instant headache. From men's cologne yes, and sometimes it's like I get almost an instant headache from men's cologne, yes, and sometimes it's like an uber driver and I'm like, oh, hell, no I have.

Speaker 1:

You know you're over the hill when you're wearing cologne, by the way, let's just put that yeah but there's people, there's young people, that do it.

Speaker 2:

I mean, I mean it's like I would smell it on people when I was in italy a of years ago and it was getting bad then, but it's gotten so bad anyway. So I get on my plane the other day and I have an aisle seat and the person on the other aisle seat, right across from me as I'm walking up, I'm like five or six rows from him and I can smell him and I'm like fuck, no, no, like there's no way I'm gonna have. I, I had I popped three advil because I was like I know I'm gonna get a headache. And I went to the back of the plane and I was like, look, I put my stuff down because I was kind of towards back anyways, and I was like, look, I don't want to be a pain in the ass, but I cannot sit next to this man. Like I knew there were other open seats because I got on this flight stand by the steess that I can't sit by him because he stinks.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I was like do you know I was like do you know that?

Speaker 2:

No he was right next to me. I started smelling him when I was five rows away and anyway. So I go back and I'm like can I just move to another open seat? Like I could see the seat map on the plane and they were like yeah, you just have to wait till everybody like gets on or whatever, we'll move you. And I was like I'm not trying to be a pain in the ass, but I'm that person right now Cause I don't really want to have a headache the rest of the day. It's obnoxious. Like I was like go walk by this person. So. And the guy comes back and he's like not the guy that smells. The flight attendant comes back and he's like, yeah, that's bad. And he's like we'll move you. He's like, but sit there right now. He's like can I give you a bag of coffee to sniff? So that's what he gave me. He gave me a freaking bag of coffee to sniff.

Speaker 2:

It actually helped quite a bit oh, wow and I kept it with me, sniffed it just keep bags of coffee.

Speaker 1:

I mean I told I can get that there's uh, it hasn't happened in a while. But there's girls that wear cologne or not cologne perfume and if it's not and I'm very sensitive to smell too and I will I can't date them like I can't can take them seriously, because I'm like I can't. There's no way I want to smell this the rest of my life it's weird because you start to associate it with like, literally like the perfume can make or break.

Speaker 1:

It's such a risk, honestly, because like it's like you don't know how men are going to respond to it. Same thing with you and people and men, but like what do you? You can't. It's not something you're going to suffer through, and particularly just because you like, because you don't know that person well enough, but there's definitely like. I mean, I can still smell certain perfumes from my past because it's like they incite of emotion, memories I used to.

Speaker 2:

I even have my perfume and I stopped wearing it at one point and I went back and I was like I wonder if that smells different to me. And it does, it smells. I don't wear it anymore and I don't. It's not like obnoxious, like that, but I'm like I'm just realizing I don't think it's, I don't know, it's just my sense of smell is changing and that's weird.

Speaker 1:

I didn't know why people still wore it. It's uh, I just thought that was like an old person thing.

Speaker 2:

I like to smell nice, so I've always like worn perfume and I don't know where that sort of started.

Speaker 1:

But there's like perfumes in hair, like in your conditioner. Yeah, there's, mild scents that are coming from your regular products. That I think like cologne, is like intense man, like one little drop of it's intense, I'm fine, just like taking a shower and putting deodorant on. I think like it's neutral, right, it's like you're going to pick up on my like normal bodily smells instead of like I'll show up without you know clean body.

Speaker 2:

You can smell clean, yeah, smell clean, yeah, smelling yeah smelling clean.

Speaker 1:

That's good. I like it.

Speaker 2:

Even some detergents are like fucking intense okay, let me tell you another thing that has happened is this where we know where we go with the smells right now because I the other day I called my friend I know you're a midwife.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to the store. Right, I had just left. Where did I leave? I went and got acupuncture and I was leaving. There I'm on the phone with my friend. I'm going into the store and I was like I'm pretty sure I smell right now. And I'm like, no, I do. And I was like is my deodorant not working? I later determined I'm pretty sure I forgot to put it on that day, but I was like I smell, like I. I hope nobody comes near me right now. I was like I'm going to keep my arms down. I legit I went in the store, bought more deodorant so that I could put it on and I was like, is it?

Speaker 2:

but I always, I like, I feel like I if I forget to put deodorant on. I feel like I remember that I forgot it, right, like at some point I'll be like oh shit, I forgot to put it on. Well, this day I swore I put it on, so I was like I don't know. Anyways, I've also determined, so pretty sure, that day I just forgot to put deodorant on, why do I smell so bad?

Speaker 1:

Sometimes it's your clothes.

Speaker 2:

It was not, it was like normal what up? Maybe I don't know, but anyways I was laughing. Because then now I've literally been dousing my arm. I go like all the way from like halfway up my arm, like all the way down front to back, Like it is full. I think I put it on three times before I came over here today because I was like, did I forget? I don't want to smell bad ever.

Speaker 1:

I always do it right after my shower, I mean.

Speaker 2:

I don't do it right away, only because I feel like I'm still like a little bit like dewy and then I feel like it doesn't stick.

Speaker 1:

Dewy, that's a new name Like.

Speaker 2:

I want it on there. I didn't want to use the word moist. Some people don't like that.

Speaker 1:

People hate the word moist.

Speaker 2:

I love the word moist some people don't like that.

Speaker 1:

People hate the word moist.

Speaker 2:

I love the word moist. So, anyways, that's another thing, I think, when you start to have like hormonal changes so I don't know. Okay, I remember I got laser hair removal on my underarms like years ago before it was probably 15 years ago and I started noticing a shift in like like I needed to put deodorant on like multiple times in a day after that. So I don't know if there's something because, like, I used to shave my underarms every day before that, so I don't know if that was like exfoliating or doing something to my underarm that then like changed the. I've overthought this way too much, clearly.

Speaker 1:

Clearly.

Speaker 2:

But it's okay, I'm sharing. And now I was just talking to a friend because she was having the same issue one day and I was like first of all she did not smell, but she was convinced that she did and she's going through some hormonal changes and so I think that's a thing too.

Speaker 1:

I don't like it. Yeah, we're just changing.

Speaker 2:

So all right, I've got another one for you.

Speaker 1:

I have a thought, though, first of all, maybe in order to help our listeners, instead of thinking of it as a hill, it's just a mountain that the top is just a cliff. So instead of thinking of us being over the hill, we just hit a certain base camp and then we get to keep going up it, but you don't get to go over it, you just go, you go over it, but you just jump. At the end you just fall off it I mean.

Speaker 2:

So maybe it's like you're just climbing, you're just like halfway up it or somewhere, because I know the connotation is you're over the hill, so there's nothing good at going down the hill. But I think it's downhill after that. Yeah, that's a good point, so maybe it's more about climbing the mountain.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, or maybe we're going.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1:

It's whatever we got to stop over, we got to stop overthinking the term midlife and over the hill.

Speaker 2:

We'll get there, we'll find like a more positively.

Speaker 1:

No, now we've had the podcast and we're never talking about it again. No, get over it, okay.

Speaker 2:

I've got another one for you. Oh my gosh, I was dying laughing about this last night. I was dying laughing about this last night. So my neighbor is out of town for like two months because he's training to be a pilot at a new job. So whenever he changes, if there's like a new plane, he has to learn, he has to go through big, long training. So he is like obsessed with checking the cameras all the time and I feel like this alone is like you start to become a little I don't want to say senile, but a little like quirky and old, as as you get older. So he's like constantly checking the cameras and, I guess, the neighborhood.

Speaker 2:

There's a couple of cats in the neighborhood. There's a black cat that used to freak me out every time I'd take Riley out in the middle of the night. There's another one and then apparently there's a third one and two of them I guess like to fight each other in the middle of the night, which they apparently pick up on their camera because they face like the front road there and anyway. So he's out of town. He somehow like he was checking the camera and then turned the mic. So the two cats were fighting and then the black cat was apparently sitting on their like front porch, like just watching the other cats, I think was the story. Front porch, like just watching the other cats, I think was the story anyways. So he started meowing at the cat through the camera, trying to get it to leave I wish you would have got that on tape oh my god, I freaking love it.

Speaker 2:

And then apparently julie started doing it too and she's like I'm like, oh my god, this is hysterical. So yeah, you know, you're getting older, or maybe just a little quirky.

Speaker 1:

You're getting a little quirky in your older age when you're talking to the animals or your wind cam yeah, you start meowing at the cats because you don't want it sitting on your front porch oh, I had a thing the other day you know you're getting older when uh, you know you're getting. It's not how it started. We know how to stop using the word older. You know you're over the hill.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you know God, I don't.

Speaker 1:

So it's election season, right? So like fuck, I got to, like I got to write stop like five times a day because of the text messages I refuse to acknowledge.

Speaker 1:

So, annoying, but these people were canvassing. So people canvas, right, I don't have a sign. I need to actually get a sign. But I they were standing. I'm sitting here working, I and I stare. They're standing outside the gate, right, I know they're canvassing. So they're staring at me outside, outside my gate, through my window, and I'm staring at them and I just wave at them, Right, and then I just go back into my kitchen and they never came through the gate. This has happened multiple times now because people I basically just ignore canvassers and solicitors Like just I just like hate the awkwardness because it makes me mad. I'm like I'm not buying anything from you, You're bothering me during the workday, get off my fucking property. But I guess I don't know if there's a question there, but does that make me an asshole? I just waved at them and then just turned my back on them and left.

Speaker 2:

That was nice. Most some people. I think it would make you an asshole, but I've had them come to my door and knock and I just sit there and my.

Speaker 1:

I don't even move from my office. That's fine, that's your right. You can see me sitting there, that's okay. Just because they knocked, does you like?

Speaker 2:

yelled at them through your ring camera, me out at them. Yeah, so I should do no if you flipped them off or yelled at them well, I get mad at them when they don't leave, because I sometimes I keep talking and then they're I'm like I appreciate, I'm always like I'm like fake, nice right.

Speaker 1:

I'm like I appreciate it, but like I'm not interested. And then they keep talking. And then I'm like I'm not interested, and then they keep talking, and then I I'm like I'm not interested, and then they keep talking and then I'm like, dude, I'm going to go get my shotgun.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no, that's okay. Second episode.

Speaker 1:

Now I've talked about shooting people, but that's how I'm going to go down. I'm going to go down in a blaze of glory.

Speaker 2:

Let's not do that today or tomorrow.

Speaker 1:

I made it all the way to the tech center the other day without crashing.

Speaker 2:

Well, look at you.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Too bad, you can't honk your horn.

Speaker 1:

Too bad.

Speaker 2:

Should fix that fucker. I had some friends over last weekend. Did I tell you this about staying up all night? I feel like we talked about this last episode. Yeah, we did, never mind. Okay, I was going to say about, like, staying up late. I was up till one 30 in the morning. I was like Whoa, whoa, haven't done this in a while well chatting so considering the timing.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'm excited for the halloween party, I'm excited for some football, I'm excited for do you like my pink fingernails? It's gonna be kind of your costume it's gonna pop for my disco dance coming back. Come back to the graveyard disco. Dan was real hot thing at the Two Birds Fit thing.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to be just glowy.

Speaker 1:

This guy's over the hill walking by here. Look at him, he's got the over the hill walk.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, his hip looks like it hurts. He's oh my god.

Speaker 1:

Alright, let's call it a day.

Speaker 2:

Well, this has been super fun. I'm glad we got to catch up. I'll be seeing you at my party tomorrow and you know what we should do the next time. We talked about some fall stuff, but our next episode is going to be airing pretty close to Thanksgiving, so we should do a Thanksgiving special.

Speaker 1:

I also want to give a shout-out to the Rapids. They're doing really well in the playoffs, so they play on Saturday. Go Rapids. My buddy Aaron, yeah, they're doing good, that's awesome. It's actually they kind of like really pulled it together here the second half of the season, so yeah, All right, okay, sasquatch out.

Speaker 2:

Okay, bye-bye.

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