Midlife Uncensored
Midlife Uncensored-Real Life Discussions from Over the Hillis the no-holds-barred podcast you didn’t know you needed. Hosted by Joel Poppert, aka Poppy—the friendly Sasquatch with an epic beard—and his fiery co-host, Emanuela Messineo, aka E, this show unapologetically dives into the chaos, comedy, and WTF moments of midlife. If you’re 35-55 and ready to embrace the rollercoaster of aging, this podcast is your new home base.
Poppy and E tackle everything from modern dating disasters in the hilarious sub-series The Love Laugh Lounge (the “festivus” of dating) to real-life shit like divorce, mental breakdowns, balding, sagging tits, and figuring out how to parent while still figuring yourself out and maybe dealing with an unhinged ex. With a blend of interview episodes and no-expert-needed banter (except when we bring on experts), these two cut through the BS and get real about midlife—no filters, no sugarcoating, just pure, unfiltered truth with a heavy dose of humor. Expect raw, relatable stories, unfiltered guidance, tough love, easy happiness, and a few episodes where the comedy comes from alcohol infused banter, because who give a fuck, right?
Whether you’re dealing with the joys of aging, trying to keep your sanity while raising kids, or attempting to find love in a sea of idiots, Midlife Uncensored has your back. Expect a few F-bombs, some belly laughs, and a whole lot of honesty as Poppy and E rip the band-aid off midlife and give you permission to thrive in this beautifully messy chapter. It's not just about surviving midlife—it's about unfucking it and owning it! This is your community; we are in it together!
Midlife Uncensored
From Cuffing Season Kick-off to Surviving Family Politics during the Holidays
In this episode of Midlife Uncensored, Poppy and E are back with a lively chat about everything fall— from cuffing season dates and Halloween parties to the ever-dreaded family holiday politics. Joel recaps his adventures at the latest Two Birds Fit mixer, where he networked (and maybe flirted) his way through the crowd. The duo dives into some great fall date ideas, from scenic walks in the park to cozy indoor cooking sessions.
But it’s not all fun and games—what happens when holiday gatherings turn into political battlegrounds? An email from a listener sparks a hilarious yet thoughtful discussion on setting boundaries, avoiding arguments, and keeping the peace during family dinners. Plus, get tips on how to survive the rest of the holiday season without losing your sanity (or your family).
With plenty of laughs, personal stories, and some real talk on navigating the dating world and holiday chaos, this episode is packed with practical advice and a lot of humor. So grab a pumpkin spice latte (or something stronger), and tune in for another unfiltered episode of Midlife Uncensored!
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all right, all right, all right. Welcome to another episode of midlife uncensored real talk from over the hill. This is your favorite friendly sasquatch with the epic beard game, joel popper, aka poppy, and emmanuela messineo, also known as e what's happening? Uh, not had a nice football day today. Packers won last minute, detroit won so I'm pretty stoked the Packers won. Other than that, just mentally preparing myself for your Halloween bash next weekend, your home's pretty decorated.
Speaker 2:I know Well, by the time we air this episode it's probably going to be after the party, but yeah. So I had a little pre-party on Friday to decorate, so I made some dinner and had some wine with friends and we got some more decorating done.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it looks great here.
Speaker 2:I need to get the rooftop done, so I have a rooftop patio. I need to get the rooftop done, so I have a rooftop patio and that's really kind of what I have to rely on to entertain, because there's not a lot of space in my living room and dining area.
Speaker 1:That would be great.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but it was raining on Friday so I couldn't do that and did a little bit of that today while Mr Poppy was watching football.
Speaker 1:Friday was a good day to sort of chill out A little bit of a big shout-out to Two Birds Fit for their Halloween bash on Thursday. That was pretty successful. Definitely drank too much. That's what I tend to do with these mixers. I think it has something to do with getting that liquid courage and going up and somebody asked me one of the girls that I met there asked me like if it was actually my objective to meet every single girl, and I'm like, isn't that what you're supposed to do with these things?
Speaker 2:I mean, I just stood in the corner. I'm like they didn't come to me, they did come to you, they did the luxury of being a woman, I guess I guess a woman. You missed a step when you came out of the restroom.
Speaker 1:Huh, oh, my fly is open again.
Speaker 2:I told you 50% of the time.
Speaker 1:Sorry, this is funny. I was about to say shut the barn door.
Speaker 2:Shut the barn door, okay.
Speaker 1:I'll remember.
Speaker 2:next time Shut the barn door.
Speaker 1:About 75% of the time when I'm at home by myself my flies.
Speaker 2:I recognize that my flies open and I'm like, well, whatever, whatever, just let it air. It's easier when I go to the bathroom and it's.
Speaker 1:You know, it's one step I don't have to take that's pretty funny.
Speaker 2:So yeah, so two birds fit. If you're in denver, you should check out their their events, but I have enjoyed their mixers there's so much better than the apps. Yeah, I enjoyed this one because I feel like it was a little bit smaller than the last one. The last one was like really crowded and a little bit overwhelming for me. Um, simply because no, I liked this last one. I feel like it was less people. Still had a lot of people there, but it was a little less like. I feel like.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean I think the AMI was at Edgewater Marketplace. Shout out to them too. That was a good venue. It's just more you feel less trapped, I guess.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So let me ask you this question because I was messaging with Karen, who we mentioned on one of our last episodes that she's going to come on. She had to postpone because of a family emergency, so anyways, but she was asking if we liked the setup of it at that bar area. So if you guys are in Denver and you've been to Edgewater Marketplace, they have this like cool bar, it's like a dining hall, and then they have a bar area with a bunch of funky couches and like seating and whatnot. But then there's also uh, I think it's called bar, contain or bark, however you say that oh, the brewery and she said that was the other option because it's like smaller and more contained.
Speaker 2:But I actually liked that it was open and people could spread out a little more. I felt like it made it easier to mingle a little bit if you wanted to without feeling like you because I think so go ahead. How did you like that setup? Do you think that was a good spot for it, or would you do you think the brewery would have been better?
Speaker 1:No, I think that was fine. I think it allowed people to go get food eat more easily and kind of if you really hit it off with somebody to sort of separate yourself from the pact, or if you're like feeling anxious or something. It was just I think I saw people go outside the bar and go hang out on other tables and stuff. Yeah, that was great. And I mean, a brewery is a brewery, it's all beer.
Speaker 2:So I don't yeah, I enjoyed it too. I felt like um maybe they have drinks there um I haven't been in there so I don't know either, um, but I gave her that same feedback and I felt like it was just, it was a good setup. So anyways, I was just curious yeah, did you. So I feel like this.
Speaker 2:I feel like whenever I see their emails or like their posts on social media, there's always like a ton of women that go and they're like it's sold out for women and there's three men going, and so this is probably maybe we shouldn't tip all the men out there off because they might come in and steal your ladies. Hey man, bring on the competition.
Speaker 1:What I don't want to happen is I don't want to have, I don't want want it to eventually get to a point where women are like this sucks Cause. I don't think women are traditionally used to having that sort of unless you're from New York, where there's just way more women than men. But for me the last, these two, last two events has been very much an anomaly, because it's been it's very rare that men are in situations where the numbers are that skewed very rare that men are in situations where the numbers are that skewed.
Speaker 1:And not only that, it's a fitness space like speed dating, so it's also chock full of attractive women. So it's really for all you men out there if you're on the apps, bitching about the apps, like this is the way to go, Because I seriously like met more quality women in a three hour span than I do like on months and months of an app, and that I'm engaging with you know. So I it was very successful for me. I dressed up as disco Dan for all the people that showed up and didn't dress up. Like shame on you. It's weird. It was a Halloween. I know it said costumes encouraged, but let's be honest, Like I just chose not to talk to the people that didn't wear costumes because they were below me.
Speaker 2:I mean, if you're intimidated at all, wearing a costume can maybe help you feel less intimidated.
Speaker 1:So I I it's weird, the more I talk, on this.
Speaker 2:I feel like the more I talk about this, I feel like I'm more introverted than I've ever realized or felt. Maybe I'm I used to be very extra extroverted.
Speaker 1:I uh, I love it because it's just like going back to the old days, like I just felt granted, like I definitely drink a little bit too much at these things, it's because I think again, with the sort of liquid courage I'm not like I wasn't like falling on the floor or anything and making an ass myself.
Speaker 2:You're thing, I'm making an ass myself. You're also drinking like high noons and although you said you drank some ipa, I drank some ipa but I mean, high noons are so light that yeah, no, it wasn't bad, I was just.
Speaker 1:I get like a real adrenaline rush from I must have got rejected at least I don't know five to ten times there was one point where I talked to a girl and I was like, and I thought she was attractive, I went up to her and I was like I could feel the energy right away and I was like I said like 10 words to her and then I was like good to meet you. Bye, because I was just like I'm not going to make you feel awkward and this is awkward for me.
Speaker 1:So that's. But I think you have to definitely be able to be rejected if you're going to one, if you're going to go to these things but two, you get to hide behind. You get to hide from the rejection a little bit on the app. So I think that's why people like it, because you don't have to really put yourself out there. But, like Mark Manson says, rejection is good. It's good to know. I definitely didn't get into this conversation about her whole history and why she did it and stuff, but really get into the conversation about I think this is the trend now moving from the apps to organize speed dating, different types of interactions.
Speaker 2:Singles and things.
Speaker 1:yeah, and clearly they're better than I mean I've done. It's not speed dating in the sense where you're like you get a number and you're like you do get a number, but like where you're like going from one table to another, you get to choose who you want to talk to. I've done the other type of speed dating and that's that's interesting too, but it's a little bit more forced right, because you got to meet everybody you gotta meet everybody and you're like I, you sit down with them.
Speaker 2:You're like uh, or they're like uh, no, and then it's a good exercise though, just like communicating with people that I don't know, but I think they're. The workout events that they have are probably a little bit more speed dating-esque. I have not gone to any of those, but yeah, maybe I should go.
Speaker 1:I don't really want to. I like working out, but I like doing that on my own I would go to a friend or something, because I need to get back into yoga.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they do some cool. I feel like they do some rooftop yoga events, or at least I've seen that in the past. So so what else has been happening?
Speaker 1:um, I'm just working and um, yeah, there's not a whole lot exciting going on. Really. I think right now is just trying to like squeeze as much money out of the season as I can. Like I was saying to you offline in my world in finance, basically nothing really happens between Thanksgiving and January 7th so unless it's already under contract, but it's really hard. 7th so unless it's already under contract, but it's really hard.
Speaker 1:You know, my, our investors tend to disappear with their families and do vacations or go to their sailboats or whatever the hell they do, and the bankers tend to like just be loaded up on vacation. There is a little bit of a push in certain areas where, like, maybe a bank needs to make its quota or something or trying to move a little bit extra money. So sometimes you kind of benefit from that, but for the most part it's like trying to close transactions at the end of the year and find out the signatories is really difficult. So I tend to use that time to, you know, do business development and, you know, prep some other. I got some other stuff in the work right now for some launch in January that I don't necessarily want to make public right now. Other stuff in the work right now for some launch in January that I don't necessarily want to make public right now.
Speaker 2:I had a really nice time with your brother, pierre and Jason. The other day we all met the little bromance date.
Speaker 1:The bromance date. Yeah, your brother's a pretty wonderful person. So is Jason, and I'm remodeling my laundry room finally after five years of staring at that ugly mess. So that's a project. Right now, I probably have about five days before I need to do laundry again, so I have five days before I have to get that floor in there so I can put the shit back in there.
Speaker 2:Well, if you need to come over and do laundry, you can do that. I'm really.
Speaker 1:OCD, so having my washer and dryer in my living room is really annoying.
Speaker 2:Yeah, wait, did you have to take it upstairs? Is your laundry room in the basement?
Speaker 1:Well, it's in the rec room there, but I spent a lot of time in that rec room, like I basically go down there. I'm usually down there by eight o'clock at night.
Speaker 2:Oh, when you say living room you mean in the basement.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the one in the, I got you okay. I was thinking. I was like why did you take those upstairs?
Speaker 2:yeah, okay, no, I did not drag those upstairs. Jesus christ, how's little mesa doing she's doing good, I gotta send you home with some good treats for her.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I thought about bringing her over for the pod today, but you know how she likes to bark during our podcast episodes. Plus, she would have got hair all over your place before your party.
Speaker 2:So yeah, I have enough cleaning and tidying up to do. It looks like a fucking bomb went off in here.
Speaker 1:But I mean in general. I'm like I mean my mind's starting to drift towards cuffing season and maybe there's a special lady out there that I'll get to make Christmas cookies with.
Speaker 2:So I was going to ask you a question about holidays. I was going to ask you, like, what are your plans for the holidays? And then we should talk about some cuffing season stuff too.
Speaker 1:I don't really have any plans. I will probably go back to Wisconsin for Christmas. Maybe Thanksgiving definitely doing here Probably go to the Friendsgiving thing if I don't go hunting, but I'm still trying to figure out if. I'm going to go hunting here in the next month.
Speaker 2:But yeah, just hanging out.
Speaker 1:I don't know. It's kind of cool. Whatever parties and things I can do. Yeah, Um what about you?
Speaker 2:Well, let's see, um, yeah, so a mutual friend of ours is doing um, a friend's giving, so I'll be doing that. And that's a couple of weeks before Thanksgiving. I've got a couple of, like a couple, birthday get-togethers in that time too, and then thanksgiving itself, I usually go to my brother's, or he likes to do earlier things, so I usually take I'm the charcuterie queen at that point, so that's what I take over and that's like our pre-dinner. It's kind of filling so it ends up being a lot of food that day.
Speaker 1:It goes with the sausage queen. Yeah, you got it. Yeah, salami, is it just sausage? I like the meat is what it is.
Speaker 2:I like meat too. Apparently I can't eat pork anymore, oh my god. So I usually do that. I've tried to find a tradition to do. One year I hosted the night before Thanksgiving. That didn't go super great, I mean, it was fine, but I've really settled in on this Halloween party tradition. So I don't really host a whole lot the rest of the time. But I'm just rambling so anyways. Yeah, normal I'll go to my brother's on Thanksgiving. I've got. I'll just do friend stuff in the evening and then a group of us usually go to the mountains that weekend, like friday to sunday. I'll be in boston for a week for our company holiday party. My friend alex is graduating from nursing school in december and he's having a big old party which will be kind of fun in the midst of all all holidays.
Speaker 1:So it was a good wingman the other night he was a great wingman.
Speaker 2:He was I've, I was like very impressed. Yeah, I know alex told us his story about the.
Speaker 1:Uh, I don't know if he wants us to share that online, but I wanted him to our podcast and laughing so hard that maybe something came out of his nose.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so well in it.
Speaker 1:Oh, the sausage great. Thing.
Speaker 2:He was eating, so I made a bunch of chicken sausage one Sunday for football.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:And all the Alex and Joel and like a I don't know a bunch of people were over and I had a ton of it left over. So I sent him home with some, because he works night shift as a nurse and I was like you need some like normal food, just take this right. So he made it into this like veggie bake, I don't know some kind of casserole, threw the sausage in there and one night shift was listening to the podcast and was eating the sausages, as joel called me the sausage queen, and he about choked it up.
Speaker 2:so it's sticking he's way better at telling the story I've yeah, it's pretty funny. Yeah, he was like oh my god, he's like I. I think he said rice came out of his nose or something, so anyways, he was a great wingman so we got an email.
Speaker 1:Do you want to get into that?
Speaker 2:yeah, because I think it goes with this whole like holiday I was gonna make you read it, because it's funny to make you read.
Speaker 1:So you're apparently you're dyslexic when it comes to reading stuff.
Speaker 2:It's really bad, you guys hey guys, oh here's.
Speaker 1:so here's the email here. I gotta open this up. Hey guys, as we approach the chaos of election season and holiday gallery gatherings, I feel like I'm entering a reality show called who can survive family dinner with relatives ready to debate politics over pumpkin pie? I'm trying to figure out how to keep the peace without launching into a full on food fight with all my family members. Do you guys have to deal with this with your own families and, if so, what are your? How do you deal with this Cause it's getting a little ridiculous year after year, and this is an election season, so I'm dreading, uh, having to go home for the holidays, sorry.
Speaker 2:Thank you for sending this in.
Speaker 1:I'm just trying to uh, I wasn't reading it word for word, I was trying to make a little sense of it. There's a bunch of typos, so, yeah, do you have to deal with this? I've heard horror stories and I'm dreading having to deal with this if I date somebody whose family is very political.
Speaker 2:So the two things obviously, I think, just because of timing, can go hand in hand right now, especially because the drama is not going to end once the election is over. I don't think so.
Speaker 1:I think it's going to get worse.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I feel like it's going to spill into holiday season, but I feel it's so. I handle the two things separately, like man, let's talk politics first. Number one I don't watch the news anymore. I think there's a lot of misinformation out there and it stresses me out. I struggle with that because I don't know that's the best approach. Like I want to be educated on these things but I just don't think the news is like the best source and, honestly, life's a little calmer without all of that noise in my life. So, uh, I will still vote. I just don't listen to the news. So I would say I vote.
Speaker 1:I voted already. I vote really early so that when people call me. I'm like well, fuck yourself.
Speaker 2:I already already voted and that's not your business. Yeah, actually it's in that pile of shit. I need to clean up right there. It's a fucking chore. There's five pages of shit oh my God, Five. I feel like I got. I feel like I got three novels in the mail. So I would say just have some other topics on hand. I avoid the conversation, especially if I know that it's going to be polarizing with people.
Speaker 1:Well, what do you do about the family member? So I think the easy advice, which I think doesn't work for a lot of families, is be like set the boundaries right away.
Speaker 2:But obviously families are really good at like running on boundaries and like MSNBC?
Speaker 1:I think we don't. I think we take it for granted. Msnbc and Fox News have completely brainwashed people in that you know particularly people that watch it and listen to it all day. It is so crazy how like absolute everybody is and their convictions around this Like I.
Speaker 1:You're not changing at this point. You're not changing anybody's minds. You certainly it's not worth. I don't mind talking about politics. I'll talk about politics to people. Certainly it's not worth. I don't mind talking about politics. I'll talk about politics to people. It's important to understand things, but I don't get in fights and I don't want to talk to people that are polarized. I want to have an intelligent conversation about what does this look like and what are the policies. I do enjoy policy. I like a written policy, a past policy, but I just think that the holidays should be a no-go zone. When it comes to holidays are, if your politics is infiltrating your family dynamic and taking away from that quality time I mean, particularly after losing my father, particularly the way that I spent all those holidays fighting about politics Like shame on you, right? Like shame on you. I would feel so guilty. That isn't the case. We don't really talk about politics in my family that much, particularly around the dinner table. It just doesn't come up.
Speaker 1:But I know it does in a lot of families, and I know a lot of families where the kids don't go home anymore.
Speaker 2:Well, and there's some people that just can't help themselves. They can't help themselves and it's maybe in the passive-aggressive way that they'll just sneak a comment in, and that, to me, was really awful.
Speaker 1:It only takes one comment to just derail. I know because Gemma's got to have the last word.
Speaker 2:Oh God. So I think the best thing you can do is take some edibles, drink some booze and get a hotel room Like don't stay with your family. No, I'm just kidding, I'm joking.
Speaker 1:From a mental health perspective, I think it. You know getting real serious here for a second. I think it's okay to call beforehand. It's okay to set boundaries with your family. It's not okay for your family just to ignore your boundaries Now they're going to ignore a bunch of them, because that's what families do but I think in this case, if it really bothers you and it's really impacting your decision to go home and spend time with your family, I think it's fully appropriate to call up your family members and be like hey, look, I don't. It's really important to me that we don't talk about politics. We obviously understand that we're on different sides of the things and can we just take it off the table for the weekend or whatever it is, please? And so then, if it does come up, you can remind and say hey, we made a deal not to talk about politics. Can we just not do it? And again, there's going to be a handful of situations where it's's not going to matter because people are so polarized.
Speaker 1:But it's okay to like instead of trying to do it in person right in that moment oh, I don't think.
Speaker 2:I think you definitely have to say something ahead of time, because people need to prepare themselves too, and if they don't think they can do that, then I think you have to make a choice of whether you what that looks like, whether it's that you don't participate don't go home If you have to travel, like maybe you do get like I was joking a little bit but the but two, if you have to travel to go see family, you should get a hotel room or stay somewhere else so that you have a break from that.
Speaker 1:If you do have those polarizing opinions, like that's an easy thing to do hotel room if you anticipate that happening, even if you're it, even if it makes your family hurt that you're, you had to do that, but I think that's a good. That's a good way to set a boundary and also have an escape plan and also make it very clear to your family members that this is getting ridiculous. Right, this is getting ridiculous. Now, if you're playing part in it, like if you're one of those people that like it only works if you keep your mouth shut, right, like you got to be, like we, you got to honor the boundary you're set. So it's not. Don't do the tit for tat, like just ignore them and just change the subject or what have you, and make it very clear that you're not going to engage in the political conversation and I can't stand it anymore, like I'm so sick of hearing about trump and harris and blah blah and all this stuff.
Speaker 1:I'm like I think if we all just we're all smart at least the people in my life are very smart human beings they're more than capable of opening up their ballot, making their own informed decisions and sending it in the mail or whatever it is, so just do it privately. Whose mind are you really going to change anymore at this point? This is the whole thing that I find very hilarious that they're like there's all these swing voters. Have you met a swing voter lately?
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they don't exist voters.
Speaker 2:Have you met a swing voter lately? No, yeah, they don't exist. They don't. There's not somebody sitting there. If somebody is, they're not saying it because of all the fallout of whoever they know is on the other end. So I don't, it's a private decision, it doesn't matter, I just think you have to have. If you don't, if you don't think you can handle that situation or getting out of it, then maybe you kind of skip some of the holiday gatherings this year, if you know it's going to be a bad situation for you, and just tell people I don't know, book a trip, go to mexico, go to europe, I don't know, go somewhere, just get out. Well, this is why friends giving is nice go like choose one holiday, don't do both.
Speaker 1:And you know I think a lot of families don't deal with this, like in my family. Politics will come up, but it's not yep it's not terrible. I mean I, but my family's fairly moderate, so I don't it's. There's open discussions about it all. For the most part, I've had the luxury of not having to deal with either extreme, I guess in my family dynamics in my close immediate family.
Speaker 1:But I've been in part of friends that are literally crying because they feel like they're home and it just really upsets them that they don't. They've just kind of lost it. We have a lot of friends that have lost parents to this sort of 24-hour media conglomerate fucking bullshit that is out there.
Speaker 2:I think it's also about just respecting that. Everybody can have their own opinion and make their own decisions and leave it alone Like it's just having some other topics and being ready to kind of change the subject. I think is also a good plan, in addition to making sure that you have, like your own personal space. So, whether that's a hotel room or something of that nature and I definitely agree with, maybe just pick one holiday or none.
Speaker 1:Skip them this year, yeah, and do the dinner and then go hang out with your friends. If all else fails, drink lots of alcohol.
Speaker 2:What are some other tricks Maybe bring?
Speaker 1:one. I mean, this sounds awful, but bring some roofies and put them in Uncle. Jimmy's drink before he starts eating, so he's passed out by dinner.
Speaker 2:Could you imagine?
Speaker 1:holy shit, oh my god I'll give 10 bucks whoever tries that one this oh my god, and we want to hear the story. Please videotape take pictures no, really don't just put them in the drinks of the people you don't agree with, don't drug people.
Speaker 2:Let's not do that. We're not going to encourage that kind of behavior.
Speaker 1:Leave your guns at home, do you redneck fuckers?
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh yes, leave all those things at home. Let's not make it. Let's not make a situation worse, but I think so. What would be like some good topics?
Speaker 1:to have in your back pocket. I mean, you guys are family. There's probably kids at our age. There's, you know. Ask the kids questions what's going on of work? What's you know? What's going on what? How is it being single for you, the single folks like? There's all kinds of stuff to talk about. Where are you planning on traveling this year? What are your plans for 2025? How's your health, you know?
Speaker 2:do you think?
Speaker 1:I think, if you can get curious, there's so many other things to talk about than things that don't matter, like politics. I'm not saying politics don't matter and government doesn't matter. Certainly it plays a role in our lives. But like the world I like to like. The world I like to like the world is not ending tomorrow, right, regardless of all this stuff, and your family is so much more important than fucking Trump or Harris or any of these fuckers. Like it's just so much more important. Get some perspective on what's important. It's so much more important. It just that's how I feel, and I know people feel so charged and that it's crazy to me how like differentiating people's opinions are on this stuff. Like they're just the world is ending, blah, blah.
Speaker 1:And I am to be like really honest with you, not getting super into politics. I am concerned about this election. I am concerned about it. I'm concerned about what happens after election day and, like it didn't, I think it's gonna, unfortunately, I think it's gonna be worse than last time, unfortunately, regardless of the outcome. I think, yeah, so that sucks. So for all of our listeners out there, if I could make a difference not that I can not storm the capitol, this time, it was sad, it's not necessary for out there if I could make a difference not that I can, um not storm the capital this time. Yeah, let's not do that. It was sad. It was sad.
Speaker 2:I know it's not necessary for I don't it's not necessary for that we're getting way too serious now, though.
Speaker 1:So yeah, drug your family members you disagree with.
Speaker 2:I would say to just you were asking about asking people questions. Most people love to talk about themselves, so just get curious, ask it's the ice machines haunting us. Um, um, if you guys can't hear it, the ice machine was just very loud.
Speaker 1:And if you're single, bring some random home for family dinner. Make your family really uncomfortable.
Speaker 2:Good distraction. Yeah, you could do what I did one year when I went home I had gotten a new. I'd gotten my nose pierced. I had a big hoop in my not big, but there was a hoop in my nose and I dyed my hair like blue. I had like blue streaks in my hair, which I have red and in there now.
Speaker 1:But oh, I didn't even notice that yeah, they're just extensions put in there, but.
Speaker 2:I actually but the when I had this, it was like very noticeable, like very can you get extensions if you don't have any hair to start with? No, they have to tie into your actual hair so we could just glue it to.
Speaker 1:You could get a wig just glue a rat tail on the back. Yeah, great, like back in the 80s.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so you could just do something like a little extra to get the attention. But it was funny because I think it was. My sister called me afterwards like the next day and was like is everything okay? Do you need to talk about anything? I'm like I'm fine, I'm in school, like nobody cares, I'm working full time, like I worked full time through college. But I was like nobody cares, I'm going to just get my blue hair and my nose pierced, for now Can't do it when I'm in corporate America.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's one way to to play the play a little bit of a joke is get some of those fake tattoos and put them all over oh my gosh, yes. And then just roll up your sleeves. Totally, you totally should.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so your mom's sweat what else would be like a good? I don't know.
Speaker 1:You could also just play pranks, or, if you know you're not gonna win and it just you gotta go anyway. Then just lean into it and tell your family you're non-binary, whatever Like, you've decided that you're going to be polyamorous.
Speaker 2:Show up with two people if you're single and be like we're in a thruple. What?
Speaker 1:is it called Kitchen table polyamory or something? Yeah, it's like where you bring your whole group of sexual partners to the family.
Speaker 2:Oh my god, yeah, there you go. Give them something else to talk about. Oh god, I live in politics that sounds funny, make them sweat okay, so let's kind of switch gears a little bit.
Speaker 1:I'm just I'm not advocating for tip for tat.
Speaker 2:I can't handle political talk, so not even like yeah, we did it.
Speaker 1:We did it. That's it. That's all you're gonna get from us for the rest of the next four years.
Speaker 2:That's the advice on that. Yes, thank you. You can move on past us. In terms of cuffing season, though, let's talk what are some fun days? When does it?
Speaker 1:start. Is it starting now?
Speaker 2:I feel like it starts now.
Speaker 1:I feel like it does fall. Yeah, it's cold now I'm staying inside. More want a want a warm body to, like you know, make me warmer, snuggle with, or I want to make somebody warmer, I don't know. I want somebody to cook cookies with.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, I started dating again oh gosh did I ever really stop, I always talk about every week it's I'm dating, I'm not dating, I'm over it, I'm dating I'm off the apps, though I'm off the apps. Okay, now you're dating, but you're off the app.
Speaker 1:Well, now I'm dating because I went to two birds fits and it was like a gold mine.
Speaker 2:I mean it's like an evolution and it's fine to have a love-hate relationship with dating. I totally get it.
Speaker 1:Love is in the air.
Speaker 2:But I okay, so say what's your. If you're planning a date it's fall right, like it's mid-October, almost end of October, what's like a date you would do right now, like between now and the end of October.
Speaker 1:Well in Denver. So I went on a date yesterday and it was really. We walked around wash park and then went over to the gaylord strip and had pizza and beer at tap and dough, which is a really good date um kudos to peter, my buddy, peter, who owns that restaurant, and the colors and the park was a park. I I love wash park. I think park, wash park and city in sloan's lake and city park.
Speaker 1:But like wash park is this life, it's got a lot of activity and there's a lot going on there. It's a pretty park so the leaves were changing and people were out there. It was saturday and it was just really nice, like I always. I think that walking we always have nice weather in denver. So I think that the I read it mark manson's book model. He talks about no who else. Somebody had told me, like do two or three things on a date, two or three activities. They don't all have to cost money and certainly maybe they shouldn't, but like, so we did. You know, we met up at the park and walked around the park and then went to the gaylord thing and had beer and pizza. It was like perfect. And then from there we walked back to the park where we parked and it was just like it just kind of broke up the things and it just ended up.
Speaker 1:It's. This wasn't my first date, so this was the girl. I got car accident, got covid and then we took a little bit of a break.
Speaker 1:She was well justified to be like, eh, I don't know if you're serious, cause I had to bail on her twice, unfortunately a while back this summer, so this was actually the date we did the first time, and so when we reunited I was like why don't we do it again? Cause we had a really good time. So, but yeah, the weather was perfect. So I think right now, if you can grab a nice fall hike or a fall walk or coffee shop while the weather's so good but let's assume it's cold then I think you start looking at your indoor activities, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Pirating Christmas parties. Halloween bashes.
Speaker 2:All the Halloween bashes. What do you got?
Speaker 1:there your pumpkin spice old fashions.
Speaker 2:There's also a bunch of yeah, there's also a bunch of like pumpkin festivals or like fall festivals. Have you been to the one I think people rave about, the one that's Anderson farms? I think it's on the North side of town. There's a bunch of them around. I've only I only go to the one that I get my green chilies from and it's more for kids, but they have a little hayride and a little train ride and they have a putt course A little train.
Speaker 1:Oh right, you take your date on your little train.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you can go on a little train ride.
Speaker 1:Is it a little trade? Would I look like a giant? Yeah?
Speaker 2:you would? You actually wouldn't fit in.
Speaker 1:You probably wouldn't be able to actually fit in you probably wouldn't be able to actually.
Speaker 2:So you're taking your date to a place where kids are supposed to go. No, I'm saying, do something like that. I go to that one because I get my green chilies there, so, and normally I take my nephews there.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't go to that one for a date unless there's kids involved but I mean, I think putting getting on a little train with your date sounds fun. I mean make me look bigger.
Speaker 2:yeah, oh, there you go. Yeah, didn't you go? Didn't you go on a little train with your date? Sounds fun, it would make me look bigger.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh there you go. Yeah, didn't you go on a date to the place with the little train?
Speaker 2:Yeah, we did, but the intention?
Speaker 1:No, we did not get on the little train.
Speaker 2:There was actually like a first birthday party happening there too. It's definitely more for kids, but we went there specifically because we were talking about green chilies, and then we ended up going out to lunch afterwards and had a nice day yeah, it sounds like you did.
Speaker 1:You were. You had a five-hour date.
Speaker 2:That's a good a date I know normally I'm like tapped out two hours, even if it goes well. It's usually like, okay, I just need to. I don't know, you can't. It's one of those things. I feel like you don't want to say too much on the first day. I don't know, it's just like good to get to see them make sure that you're like both attracted to each other, and then it's sort of like, okay, let's try this again another day yeah, I mean I do always encourage people to.
Speaker 1:I mean if it's, if it's going, it's going right. But I do always think it's better to cut off a day earlier, particularly the first couple just to leave something for later. And also, we need new people in small doses, right? Otherwise, particularly in today's environment, where we're constantly looking for red flags- you get to marinate it a little bit.
Speaker 1:So I have a question for you. I was having a conversation with somebody rh the other day, that's single too and he was like I read this book and by so and so, and it was about all this stuff. It was a classic. I didn't have the heart to be like, hey, man, like that shit is bullshit. It's like the classic wait three days or don't even text them back, wait for them to text you with this and that.
Speaker 1:And, like my experience has been, I first of all, I don't play that game. If I like a girl, I usually text her like within a couple hours after going out with her and be like hey, I really appreciate your time and your time is valuable, whatever it is. And I, um, let's say, make a compliment and say I'd love to see you again. I don't try to set something up right away, but I'm just like I would. I would love to see you again. You know, and I, that has never not worked for me. That's never not. I mean it. It has I have it has flushed out a non-interest before, but it's never not. It's never been like. I just don't think my, I guess my question is does it actually work, particularly in our forties, like when you like, if, if somebody, if a man doesn't text you for three days after a date, isn't that like a?
Speaker 1:or text you at all, isn't that just a sign that they're not interested? Yes, or they're playing games, right? Yes, like do you get excited when a man that you liked went on a date with text you like, yes, afterwards. Okay, so we just cleared that up yeah, like the guy yesterday messaged no it's fine.
Speaker 2:I the guy yesterday messaged me like on his way home, so I, that was very nice. It's just like reassuring, so that you you know, and obviously, if it's not mutual, I like I just tell people if it's not so that to not drag it out. But no, I think if there's a long gap or if there's like a change in the frequency without a very logical explanation, it's a I'm done here, cause I'm like I'm not going to play that push pull game and I say that, but I that just happened to me earlier this year and whatever. So it just I'm learning to really, though, trust myself with that stuff.
Speaker 2:So it's hard because there's people that aren't genuine and want the attention from you but don't actually want to move forward with you, or they don't want the same thing that you want, but they want to keep you kind of on the hook, and I think you just have to trust your gut, or use your words and ask people, or if people are interested, I feel like you know, and same goes, it goes both ways. Use your words and ask people, or you know, if people are interested, I feel like you know, and same goes, it goes both ways. And you know. If you're not going to be available or communicating for a while because you're super busy, you should tell people. If you're interested, you should tell people. If you're not, you should fucking tell people move on, don't get a 10. I don't know. I just I think what you're describing is very healthy and people who are playing games or need to resort to that. To me that's what I've. I think it works for a certain type of.
Speaker 1:I think it works. It probably works for a certain type of attachment.
Speaker 2:I just think you have to. I don't think it's healthy. It's not healthy. No, okay, look at the end of the day, if you normally just are that busy or that scatterbrained that you wouldn't text somebody for three days, because you will, because of whatever you do you like, but don't do it because somebody told you to wait three days, do what comes natural to you. If the other person lines up with that, then great, because if you're fake up front, it's going to come out later.
Speaker 2:So think about who. Don't just be who you are. Like you're going to match up with someone. Like some people love to text all freaking day, some people don't. Some people don't want to text at all. Some people want to have all fricking day Uh, some people don't, uh. Some people don't want to text at all. Some people want to have a phone call. Some people will only want I don't know whatever. Whatever your style is, just do you. There isn't a right or wrong, but I think just be transparent about what you like is a very nice like we. Actually, I had this conversation with this guy yesterday and it was like he was. Like I normally just tell people on the first date if I'm not interested in another one and I was like, great, is that what we're getting at here? But no, I think the transparency is refreshing. I think it's hard to hear if you are interested and the other person isn't, but I'd rather have that than be strung along.
Speaker 1:So yeah, I mean, I feel like this stuff used to work, maybe when we were a kid, when we weren't as fully developed in terms of our attachment, and basically I mean where I was going, where I think this, who this? What I was about to say is I think this works. This sort of tactic works for people that are anxious attachment, and there's nothing healthy that's going to come out of making an anxious attachment person more anxious.
Speaker 1:So that's all you're doing is you're waiting three days and making the person that you like more anxious, and they are going to text you back, but then you've now gotten to this.
Speaker 2:Now you're in their head as like an unknown and an uncertain, and that's not helping your situation at all, and when you're also just attracting somebody who, if that is what they're attracted to, then I don't know there's, I don't know I don't have to hear from I don't. It's situational like I, just you don't want to be too much, you don't want to be too little, but really, at the end of the day, just be you and in cupping season doesn't last forever so why waste three days?
Speaker 1:exactly right yeah you could have a date in three days, but now you added all these anymore.
Speaker 2:We're on, we're on our phones all the damn time. I mean, I, I I've been super. It's literally just been non-stop, one thing to the next, like my communication this past like week or so, has been shit with people, even people that I am. It's basically if I'm seeing you that day, I make sure I'm responding to you, and I don't like that, like I'm trying to be good about it, but I've definitely forgotten to respond to some people along the way. But if that has happened with someone that I'm interested in, I'm also letting them know that's not normal or that I'm just super busy right now. So just be transparent and do whatever works for you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think that be yourself, man. I just think you gotta be yourself.
Speaker 2:Like, what works for me isn't going to work for you or whatever. That's why that's also part of why, like, we aren't all matches, you know. Like you just have to do what's natural for you and attract the person faster you can get to know is like that, you know. It's just frees you up to find somebody that is a good match. So yeah as my therapist has told me, I just let people linger around too long, so no more. You're out of here If you fuck it up.
Speaker 1:No, I'm kidding.
Speaker 2:So I think that answered your question about whether to the timeliness of responding on those. But oh yeah, so going back though, there are some fall festivals more fun than the one I went to. That was more kid-oriented, but you could do some cooking together. I don't usually like to do like a stay stay in date till there's I don't know at least a few dates in.
Speaker 1:You're looking at me like, yeah, I know your game I know, yeah, it's fine. I love cooking for women.
Speaker 2:I love cooking too, but it's also, it just, it's very intimate. It's very intimate.
Speaker 1:I think it's uh, but I totally agree. I think it doesn't always have to be about sex and it shouldn't be the assumption, but I do think it's. You know, if you've gone on a few dates at a restaurant, maybe you rode a little train and you've gotten comfortable with each other.
Speaker 1:I think that making dinner for somebody, it's just very intimate, regardless of whether you have sex or what have you. I just think you're getting to see, I mean it's vulnerable, particularly for the person that's hosting it, because you're like in their house and you know meeting their dog and seeing how they live. And you're obviously going to get some more information, some more data points. For me, like particularly your cuffing season, I was telling a girl I went on a date with the other day about how like I've I mean you know this about me I've only had one girl spend the night at my house since I got divorced, which is a girl I was in a relationship with and it's, or, you know, like cuddling up on the couch and watching a movie. These aren't activities that I've done in like years, right, so I'm very much open to it.
Speaker 1:I don't know why it doesn't happen, but I would love to have a girl come over for dinner and just cuddle up on the couch with her and watch a movie or whatever, particularly during cuffing season when it's cold outside or sit in the back of my fire pit and have a cocktail or something.
Speaker 2:I'm actually doing a just thinking of cooking. You don't have to do it at home either. I'm actually doing this this week when I'm on the road for work. We're taking some of our customers to a cooking class and you can bring your own wine and they have the B-Y-O-W yeah. So it's at Sur La Table, I think is how you say it. It's just like a. It's like a whatever cooking gadget type store, but they do classes all the time time and they're all over the place, so you can go. We're doing a.
Speaker 1:Tuscan surf and turf cooking class on Tuesday. You know what's a really fun activity to do with your date in late night. What Smash pumpkins?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, steel gnomes, steel garden, gnomes from people's yards like the old days. Yeah, that's fun, I was going to say, or carving pumpkins or go actual trick-or-treating.
Speaker 1:Find some random kid, take them trick-or-treating or just go as an adult.
Speaker 2:Could you dress up as a kid?
Speaker 1:I should have somebody over for trick-or-treating, because I I get a lot of kids at my place there you go.
Speaker 2:Uh, is it on halloween this year? What trick-or-treating or sometimes they do them like saturday before or whatever I don't know.
Speaker 1:I uh, I put the bowl out one time at nine and went downstairs to watch a movie and I caught a kid. Like they had an escape car so they were like old enough to have car shut up and I got it. I posted on instagram. It's like a video on there. I caught him on my thing and I was so proud of this kid. Except for he stole a really nice bowl of mine.
Speaker 1:It's don't take the bowl if you guys are gonna steal the candy, just don't take the bag, put it in a bag, but he took the whole fucking bowl and it was a nice bowl but it was so funny because he came in the yard, grabbed it and looked around and then I like ran faster than lightning with this fucking bowl of candy. I'm like I guess I'm done, turn the light off did you when you were like a teenager?
Speaker 2:did you when like?
Speaker 1:how long?
Speaker 2:did you still go trick-or-treating as a teenager?
Speaker 1:yeah, and I took any time it was. Take one. I took the whole bowl.
Speaker 2:It's such a dick and then did you take like a pillowcase or like, what was your like? How did?
Speaker 1:we had it dialed in, man man, we would fill up whole. No, I had the plastic pumpkin.
Speaker 2:Even as a teenager.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I had three of them. We would fill them up because we would run around and we knew I lived in a small town.
Speaker 1:So we knew which we learned which people put the thing out there and took their kids trick-or-treating and said just take one. And we would just hit those up right away. We were such dicks and we would have so much candy. I mean, we were smoking pot at this age we were. That's how old we were, you know. Granted, I started smoking pot when I was like 13, among other things, but so, yeah, we would just sit around.
Speaker 1:I remember. I have fond memories of us like eating halloween candy and playing video games and smoking pot in my buddy's basement that's pretty, pretty funny.
Speaker 2:What's your favorite Halloween candy? But eventually the parents.
Speaker 1:Eventually the people at the houses were like. They were literally like no, get the fuck out of here, you fucking kids.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what's your favorite Halloween candy?
Speaker 1:I mean, I love chocolate, so I love butterscotch, I like Heath bars, I like all the chocolate stuff. Man, I'm not a big Skittles person, or yeah, the chocolate man.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to think what my actual favorite is. I do like candy corn. I'm not a person.
Speaker 2:I kind of. I, almost I'm going to my friend's house to trick-or-treat with her kids or with their kids. It's your favorite peanut butter yeah peanut butter cups. I used to really like butter fingers too oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah, I like more of the peanut, but I mean I love the chocolate too. But if you gave me like one of those fat Reese's cups, that would be it.
Speaker 1:There was a house in our neighborhood that had a cotton candy machine and they made cotton candy for all the kids. Oh, that's super fun. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:We had a cotton candy fundraising thing in high school so we had a cotton candy machine and my friend I'll never forget this she drove what we called the Mobile, which was an old Oldsmobile and this thing was just this hoopty basically, but her trunk was full of all this stuff and one of the things that was in there was the cotton candy machine and then couldn't open the trunk one day, I don't really know why her trunk, like it, just wouldn't open. She ended up selling the car with the trunk full, like the cotton candy machine went with the car sounds about right back like.
Speaker 2:This is the little side panel had that little strip that goes like on like the lower half of the door or whatever. It came off and she, like, she put like tape on and like spray painted it silver.
Speaker 1:It was like so bad, it was so bad remember back in the day when the old cars were like. They were all like. They weren't even muscle cars, but they had muscle car engines. And I'm like the 78 old oh yeah which was a classic sedan. Right, yeah, had a 350 in it. Yeah, like those things were powerful because they were all made of.
Speaker 2:Like all the cars back in the day weighed three times as much as the thing is like, as much as I rip on the no, I drove a new, uh, a new yorker.
Speaker 2:I had a hoopty myself, but we're like working and paying for our own shit in high school too, so you know that's just what we were doing, but anyway, so cotton candy. I would love this neighborhood. We don't get there's. There's a school, there's actually a couple schools like right in the neighborhood here, but we don't get a lot of kids trick-or-treating. I almost would love to start an adult trick-or-treating tradition in this neighborhood and just have shots or adult treats and have the driveway ready. I don't know, I just would love to do that.
Speaker 1:No, we should just start. You should get bigger with this. We should start adult trick-or-treating. Maybe you have put a certain color light in your thing, or just be outside, like my friend's neighborhood, on the trick-or-treating night.
Speaker 2:Most people have they take like a fire pit, like one of the ones that you can move, and they take it into the driveway. Every house has like an adult shot for people or some kind of adult like treat, and or they give like apple cider, like spiked apple cider, or uh, my friend does, my friend from Florida that you met, Michelle, she does these like espresso martini shots for people. I could have my pudding shots, although that's cold.
Speaker 1:But people still love them. Next year we're going to start adult trigger training. I think we should do that. Yeah, that sounds a good idea.
Speaker 2:I think we need to advertise it ahead of time and get people in the neighborhood to do it. Or, like the people down here, the next block south of me actually got Somehow like you can get the city to let you like shut your street down. They have a block party. So I feel like that's another thing and then I could just advertise for it along 17th, like we're going to have a block like an adult Halloween block party.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we could have one in my neighborhood too. I like it. Let's prep for for that. By this time next year we'll be like episode 75. We'll probably be pretty famous, so we can probably advocate for it we'll just tell all of our listeners to come, and that's it.
Speaker 2:The rest will take care of itself so I it'll be a two birds fit.
Speaker 1:Well, no, we gotta do it through the neighborhood, so we gotta get at least two or three neighborhoods to do it. I think the neighborhoods that make sense are this little node here in sloan's lake, because it's a lot of people our age, yeah, um what about the less kids?
Speaker 2:highlands like western highlands edgewater.
Speaker 1:There's too many kids. Yeah, the highlands, I think would work.
Speaker 2:Wash park might work well, I feel like it all needs to be like walkable, like to where you can like start here and then take a drink and like go to the other, like little pocket, you know.
Speaker 1:Or what if you got the bars to do it?
Speaker 2:What do you do during the day Ooh like a Halloween pub crawl.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean I'm sure there are, though I think those do exist.
Speaker 1:Or maybe it's just trick or treating. You just walk and, like dude, gives you a hot dog or a sausage or something it's just trick or treat.
Speaker 2:You just walk and like dude gives you a hot dog or a sausage or something, I mean I've I'm happy to provide that.
Speaker 1:So I was gonna tell. So I want to tell this halloween story. So when we were kids the shrams, my buddy's parents I had a second set of parents when I was a kid because my buddy shram and I were like inseparable and his parents loved halloween. That was their holiday, right, yeah, they had this huge, isn't that classic, you know, like old big porch, front porch, you know, with the windows and stuff, three season porch, oh, and they were in the front in wisconsin. So every year they would do, they would put plastic, black plastic bags up, make it completely dark, do the black lights. And and then after we stopped trick-or-treating when we were like 14, we got recruited to be just decked out right all day face paint, vampire, blah, blah. Oh yeah, so fun and we would. The parents loved this back in the day when you could scare, make kids cry, and the parents were like yeah, you could chase them with a, chase them with a chainsaw, and we did.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, we did and like we would like one of us would stand there and be still. And the kids I remember it was so funny the kids, this little kid, is this real? And as soon as they like got enamored you'd be like they go fucking running out the door crying.
Speaker 1:But like the parents got such a kick out of it and it was this kid after kid and like we did this well, and I think the last time I did it was like when I was 19 with them, but I was always so. It was so fun. The shrams always had the best Halloween porch and that's the way you got to do it. If I had a porch like that, I would totally do that where, like, you make the kids. Well, I don't know if you can get away with that now in today's age, but, like, have you been to a haunted house lately? No, I haven't been.
Speaker 2:I used to love haunted houses. This is actually reminding me here. I was like, oh, everyone's asking me lately if I've always loved Halloween this much and I was like, no, not really. I just kind of took this Halloween party over as a way to kick off holiday season. But I'm remembering now that I actually the town I grew up in had a big haunted house. It was a pretty good one, but it was run by the Lions Club, which my dad was the president of when I was a teenager and I actually worked in the haunted house. Totally forgot about that. So I used to dress up and scare people.
Speaker 1:That's fun.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I love haunted houses. I haven't been one in years. Are there any good ones here? I'm sure there are. Yeah, but I love haunted houses. The thing is like I mean, I haven't been one in years. Are there any good ones here?
Speaker 1:I'm sure there are.
Speaker 2:There's probably out in the suburbs somewhere. I feel like I want to go to one.
Speaker 1:I don't know if I don't really know, if yeah, I don't know. We used to have like in the Midwest, corn mazes were a big thing, Because this is when the corn's done growing.
Speaker 1:So like people would carve corn mazes out and yeah, there were always good haunted houses and that was like a thing I loved. I don't know, halloween was always. I just think halloween's a really fun, uh, holiday because it's sort of the start of fall yeah, the leaves are changing. It just feels, I don't know, like cinnamon and you know, pumpkin spice and blah blah, and then it's sort of the precursor to for me it was always a precursor to all those sort of like late year traditions like going hunting with my dad and then Thanksgiving and then became Friendsgiving and yeah, christmas isn't really my holiday.
Speaker 2:I think in terms of right now. I think we should do another cuffing season tidbit when it gets closer to Thanksgiving and then another one at Christmas. We should just focus on the fall stuff right now, Cause those fall.
Speaker 1:I think we should find cuffing people. We should give people updates on where we're at with our cuffing.
Speaker 2:I mean I've got, I will. Hopefully something moves forward with this one, we'll see. It's always way too early to know it's only one date. I, we'll see, it's always way too early to know it's only one date. I stayed up until 1 30 on friday night and I was like, oh my god, I don't think I've been up this late in a long time, like just visiting with friends I stayed up past midnight twice this week and I'm like it's gonna take me a week to recover, yeah it'll take me a week to recover.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Do you remember when? Well, like, that was the only one I wrote down, unfortunately.
Speaker 1:And it wasn't even a good one.
Speaker 2:Remember foam toilet seat covers. Yes, actually they were so comfy.
Speaker 1:Why don't we keep those? Why didn't they keep those alive?
Speaker 2:I mean you could probably find one. Maybe it's old and used. Gross, Remember when we had phones that were like on the wall with a cord.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Like we had a phone that was right next to our pantry and so we would go into the pantry and close the door and have a conversation as if people couldn't hear you through the door.
Speaker 1:I mean, I went down in our dungy basement and talked to my girlfriend in middle school for an hour, two hours down in the basement on the phone and I remember because somebody would pick up, like my sister would be like, are you? Still on the fucking phone. Your mom would be like who are you talking to? Is that?
Speaker 2:Casey, casey, hi, casey.
Speaker 1:Fucking embarrassing mom. Oh my God, I totally forgot about that, or you'd get in a huge fight. My sister would start huge fights.
Speaker 2:You know how to steal the phone and then you'd get a second phone line, so like no, we didn't we didn't either, but you, like some people, did, and then eventually it was like you had call waiting, cause that wasn't a thing Initially. Remember, when you have to call somebody, it was like gosh, it's been busy. It's been busy Like then call, waiting became a thing, and then star 69.
Speaker 1:Star 69. Or just a regular answer machine where you came home and it was like flashing. You're so like excited.
Speaker 2:Who left me a message? Yeah, oh, my God.
Speaker 1:I feel bad for kids that they have to carry these fucking phones around and people know where they are and all the tracking.
Speaker 2:Oh God, people just tracking where you are all the damn time. Yeah, it's an invasion.
Speaker 1:What was the other one we had?
Speaker 2:Oh, you know you're over the hill when you know you're over the hill, when my date for tonight was like can we just go somewhere casual, dress comfortable and get some food, because I dressed nice last time.
Speaker 1:I think I love this person. I do think that you dress up for the first date. The rest of them can be casual.
Speaker 2:Yeah exactly.
Speaker 1:No man dislikes yoga pants. Let's just put it that way, or I think they're called leggings. Now, yeah, that's funny. There was a guy I know he's a mentor of mine and he's older than me, he's older. He made a comment one time because his girls were walking by. It was a creepy old man comment for sure, but I appreciated it. And we're sitting there, we're having margaritas at the bar and it's an outdoor bar, in Steamboat, to quote him, he goes. Whoever invented yoga pants should have a statue made in their honor. They're like, just appropriate all for all occasions, you know men don't have a pair of any, I guess jeans.
Speaker 1:But like we don't get to walk around and we don't get to go on a date in shorts, I mean I do. We're not supposed to you can apparently flip-flops too, became like a no-go. Like what for men? Yeah, I've seen girls be like they're like they're disgusted by men that wear okay, so maybe you're just going out with people that are a little.
Speaker 2:No, these are threads. I'm reading this stuff on threads cargo pants.
Speaker 1:I can see we've the cargo pant.
Speaker 2:Era has passed us by yeah, uh, that might be coming back at this point.
Speaker 2:That's how long that's gone, they were so comfortable okay, we're gonna circle back, because another fun thing you could do for cuffing season my friend's coming in town for the party and we're gonna go hit up some cocktail bars. So I found an espresso martini bar and then this other I don't know it's called sorry, gorgeous. I think it's like a rooftop cocktail bar in denver. So we're gonna go check those out, but we're actually going at four in the afternoon, so but I feel like those are gonna to be good. Those would be like good date spots too for the fall, like somewhere that has like the oh the halloween, like pop-up bars which they do all season long. There's like christmas ones and whatever. Those are fun too oh, the christmas parades.
Speaker 1:I forgot about the christmas parades definitely want to do a christmas parade, all the parades. We got to find the parades.
Speaker 2:Halloween first.
Speaker 1:All right, halloween first. Okay With that.
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