Midlife Uncensored
Midlife Uncensored-Real Life Discussions from Over the Hillis the no-holds-barred podcast you didn’t know you needed. Hosted by Joel Poppert, aka Poppy—the friendly Sasquatch with an epic beard—and his fiery co-host, Emanuela Messineo, aka E, this show unapologetically dives into the chaos, comedy, and WTF moments of midlife. If you’re 35-55 and ready to embrace the rollercoaster of aging, this podcast is your new home base.
Poppy and E tackle everything from modern dating disasters in the hilarious sub-series The Love Laugh Lounge (the “festivus” of dating) to real-life shit like divorce, mental breakdowns, balding, sagging tits, and figuring out how to parent while still figuring yourself out and maybe dealing with an unhinged ex. With a blend of interview episodes and no-expert-needed banter (except when we bring on experts), these two cut through the BS and get real about midlife—no filters, no sugarcoating, just pure, unfiltered truth with a heavy dose of humor. Expect raw, relatable stories, unfiltered guidance, tough love, easy happiness, and a few episodes where the comedy comes from alcohol infused banter, because who give a fuck, right?
Whether you’re dealing with the joys of aging, trying to keep your sanity while raising kids, or attempting to find love in a sea of idiots, Midlife Uncensored has your back. Expect a few F-bombs, some belly laughs, and a whole lot of honesty as Poppy and E rip the band-aid off midlife and give you permission to thrive in this beautifully messy chapter. It's not just about surviving midlife—it's about unfucking it and owning it! This is your community; we are in it together!
Midlife Uncensored
Welcome to Midlife Uncensored: Real Life Discussions from Over the Hill
Ever wondered what it feels like to navigate midlife with fewer inhibitions? We’re kicking off the newly rebranded "Midlife Uncensored" with a fresh approach to real-life discussions that blend humor, honest emotions, and genuine connections. From the unavoidable midlife crises to the perplexing reality of slowing metabolisms, we’re keeping it real for all our midlife peers. Whether you're single, married, divorced, or living the suburban dream, we promise candid conversations filled with laughter and a touch of vulnerability.
Curious about the foods we grew up with compared to today's choices? We explore the stark differences in ingredients and regulations, and how it impacts our health. Traveling dreams, especially those involving Italy, take center stage as we discuss the importance of wellness and maintaining health into old age. We also share the unfiltered joy of a spontaneous girl's night filled with laughter, meaningful conversations, and the irreplaceable value of friendship. From online dating woes to mental health struggles, we’re opening up about the complexities that come with midlife.
Ready for a mental tune-up? We emphasize creating an open, safe space for sharing stories and struggles, even when answers aren’t readily available. Journey with us through discussions about spirituality, meditation, daily irritations like driving and tech frustrations, and the existential questions of religion and humanity. We even contemplate humanity’s place in the universe, touching on everything from AI immortality to our generational nostalgia. Subscribe, stay connected, and join us on this liberating ride through midlife without the filters.
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I'm on now you are checking. One, two checking checking. All right, all right, all right. Welcome to another episode. Oh, I'm just kidding. Welcome to the first episode. The rebrand of the only lona podcast as midlife uncensored real life discussions from over the hill, the place where we give less fucks. I'm making all this shit up but you know what?
Speaker 1:you're really good at this all right, we um yeah, so we are rebranding. We have grown, we are listening to our listeners, we're less crazy than we were when we started and we're less alone. So, while we're still owning our loan and the Sasquatch is still here I still have my epic beard game we're going to move on to a lighter podcast. Are we still going to get deep sometimes? Sometimes we're going to cry, but mostly we're going to laugh and we're going to expand to all of our midlife peers. So this podcast is for, technically, 35 to 55 year olds, but if you think you're going to live to 120 and you're 60, you're fucking good. If you think you're going to die in your 50 and you're 25, then you're also good. Over the hill is not. It's not a finite number, so, and it's not a bad place to be. So, manuela hi.
Speaker 2:Hello, how are you doing?
Speaker 1:I know we have zero script for this, I know.
Speaker 2:I'm digging our new microphone covers too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, wait till people see our new cover. I think we nailed it I think we did too.
Speaker 2:That was pretty good.
Speaker 1:That was fun and a description, so I think this is gonna be great. We realize also that our listeners aren't all single middle aged people owning their alone, that actually a lot of them are married or divorced or have kids or living with the white picket fence, you name it, but they're still midlife and they're still dealing with all the amazing things that come with being quote-unquote over the hill and some of the challenges that come also with being over the hill, like midlife crises that seem to be very prevalent in our life.
Speaker 1:Not me, because I'm already going through my epic midlife crisis, which I'll refer to quite a bit here. Yes, this is my cocktail um good job, cheers um my high noon yeah, this is what happens in midlife too, even men drink high noons because it's like becomes nearly impossible to lose weight as you get older.
Speaker 2:That will be a topic, I'm sure. Oh yeah, for sure. I mean mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I ran a marathon three days in a row and I gained five pounds. That's how that works.
Speaker 2:I know there's so much BS. I could talk to you for hours about that topic.
Speaker 1:I never thought it would happen. People always told me they're like your metabolism is going to slow down someday. I'm like fuck off while I'm eating a bag of doritos if I had a whole bag of doritos right now, I'd feel guilty for a week and a half and I'd also gain a pound.
Speaker 2:It would take eight months to burn that one pound to lose the one pound. Yeah, I know that's the way that it fucking goes. I mean, unfortunately, I think, a lot of uh, like you're gonna get me off on a here, but food industry is not meant to help us lose weight.
Speaker 1:So no, I also thought it was just a disclaimer to everybody listening to this episode and every episode forward. I think we're just going to let ourselves go on our tangents. I think they're fun. So you have sort of with your accountability with E. I've seen some of your posts sometimes, and actually one of the things that I found very interesting that I don't think a lot of people know is that a lot of the foods that we gen x slash late millennials grew up with like going to get a mcdonald's hamburger or the french fries, or even the candy and stuff that we ate the bad food or the junk food or whatever was exponentially more healthy than the same foods that exist today, like the mcdonald's hamburger and like just the chemicals and all that stuff.
Speaker 1:That, like, they're just not.
Speaker 2:They're not, pound for pound, the same anymore yeah, so they're different ingredients, animals are being raised differently, all those things so you can look at. I haven't done this because I don't have what. I should probably look it up and do some comparisons, but there are. I've seen different content out there that that does compare, like the ingredient list of, say, doritos from back then to now. Even if the ingredients are the same, the chemicals being used to grow, certain things that are in the ingredients are different, so it can cause other problems in your body. And what was the other thing?
Speaker 2:Oh, the other interesting fact, which is not having to do with back then versus now, but a lot of foods that get exported to other countries, they actually have different ingredients that they use because it's illegal for them to use certain things that we use here. So I think it's Kraft mac and cheese. They actually don't use like the food dye, they actually use like turmeric, like real food, to actually give it color. So if you go buy that in another country, it has different ingredients and that's why if you go to McDonald's in Italy, it tastes different because it is different Like. That's why if you go to mcdonald's in italy, it tastes different because it is different like it's like they might have the same menu items but the like ingredients that go into it are different animals are raised differently.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're gonna have to do an episode on this so I know you want to go to italy.
Speaker 2:I mean, I'm going, I think, in january, so I want to go back to italy. Really bad I will go back to Italy. I want to live in.
Speaker 1:Europe. So Barcelona, though, is on my show. I just know that I'm going to love Barcelona.
Speaker 2:I also want to go back to Rome.
Speaker 1:I had such a wonderful time in Italy with my mom and my sister and brother-in-law, but I also I want to go back to Rome. I want to go back to Rome solo or with my peers. I want to try to stay up until 2 in the morning and do the Rome thing and not do all the touristy stuff and just embrace the culture a little bit more. But specifically in Rome, I don't know if Rome's the right place. There was a weird thing about Rome that I don't know. I don't know if Rome's the right place I there was a weird thing about Rome that I felt like I mean, it was just full of beautiful people. First of all.
Speaker 1:And I was like whoa, I'm not this beautiful at all. So I'm like these people are all like young and blah blah, and but I did. There was a whole scene going on there. I have a hard time.
Speaker 1:I guess I would have a hard time going back to Rome just because there's so many other places in Italy that I want to see, but maybe just you're going to fly in there most likely, so spend like a night or two there, and then I want to do Sicily and I of course want to go to the Dolmenites at some point, but I mean there's just so many places in Europe that's why I want to live there, but where I was going to go back, because I do want to encourage the tangent.
Speaker 2:But here we go off on one.
Speaker 1:Well no, I'm just like I'm just I'm raising my hand to the wellness thing, because I think you carry very much about wellness. You have like your own thing going on with it, accountability with you and I think we've talked about that being sort of part of part of the frequency of the new podcast is to talk about midlife wellness and health wellness, diet whatever, and all that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I would love to do more on that and I don't have a lot of the answers. I mean, I went through my own journey and I know what worked for me and I feel like I try to share that with other people because I think it works for a lot of other people too. And I feel like I try to share that with other people because I think it works for a lot of other people too. But everyone has to find what works for them too, because all of our bodies are different, so we might all respond differently to different things. But essentially, what I've done is I try to stick to a lot of whole foods or if I'm going to have something processed that it's as close to a short ingredient list, and whole food items that are used for that. But yeah, I don't know, I just want to feel better and I'm going to live to a hundred, so I don't want to be in pain.
Speaker 1:So you're not even midlife yet. I guess I got to get a new host. I know I do close. You have to get somebody older, I mean whatever. I'm probably going to live to 72. So I'm well over the hill, stick with me.
Speaker 2:I'm going to have you living longer.
Speaker 1:I don't know. Men in my family just die early. But I'll get over that I mean we talk about it by therapy. That 72 is my number.
Speaker 1:So I feel this, I mean I'll do a whole episode about how I feel. Like I really do feel like one of the things of midlife. I mean, there's so many benefits to being older, like just giving less fucks and having less insecurities and just fuck it. Man, like life is pretty fun how I respond to people, my relationships are so much more authentic and real and blah blah, and I just feel like I'm on, like I'm unencumbered in the sense that I can say what I want and become the old man that I've always meant to be, but I'm also still like attractive and have things going. I'm in the peak of my career. There's just all these fun. There's just like this balance of like things.
Speaker 1:But I have gone through my midlife crisis. I'm not we were just talking earlier today offline that I feel like there's still like little micro earthquakes of my midlife crisis that creep up that I have to deal with, but they're all manageable now, like my major one was several years ago, which really born the only alone podcast. But I'm also watching my peers go through theirs, whether they are aware of it or not. I'm watching some of our peers, some of my peers. I'm not gonna say I'm watching your friends go through theirs, whether they are aware of it or not. I'm watching some of our peers, some of my peers. I'm not gonna say I'm watching your friends go through the midlife crisis, but that might be happening too. But it's like funny, it's like fun to watch and then be like, hey, man, like you want to talk about anything because whatever. And then here's, and then what?
Speaker 1:happened is we're like let's just do the podcast on midlife and let's call it. We had settled on midlife, unfucked and then midlife uncensored was at the top of this for a while and then some very smart ladies that are friends of yours helped us make the decision that midlife uncensored was right, and I totally believe that, because I think we're just going to talk about all the midlife stuff.
Speaker 2:We're going to bring on guests and we're going to do?
Speaker 1:we're going to bring on experts and then we're just going to bring on people to talk about their shit too. Hopefully we can get some husbands and wives on here to fucking vent and bitch at each other and make some fun of that.
Speaker 2:It's like a we're a non-professional uh therapy session. Is that right?
Speaker 1:or that's probably not the right way to say it not non-professional, but we're not I think we can be the pillows you want to scream in, but we're just gonna record it I love this, so you should also know I had a girl's night here, and so we were right um, did you guys have a pillow fight? Cause that's what men think you guys do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, of course we did. And sexy pillow fight. So we were actually all around the fire pit upstairs and I was like, oh my gosh, we all just like need microphones. We were laughing so hard Like I wish some of my neighbors were home at the time listening to the shit that we were talking about, because it was pretty good, but that was where you should have.
Speaker 1:My god, I know we should get some of those mics that you like. Just clip to your shirt, like yeah we should get some of those. We're gonna need more mics.
Speaker 2:We need more people yeah, it was so good, like it was just and I love like bringing people together, which is why I think what's really cool about this podcast is like giving a place for people to feel like they're not alone with some of this stuff, because it's a lot of us are in like uncharted territory and we're going through a lot of real life heavy shit, and it's just sometimes nice to know there's someone else in your corner, even if you haven't gone through the same thing. So I think that for me is like oh, that's a really important part of what I try to do all the time. So I love this as a forum to do that too. But that night it was like it's just like a cool way to bring people together. I had two girlfriends that wanted to do a 14er. We ended up not doing it for a few different reasons Both of them are Because your knees were like fuck off yeah but my knee was like fuck off.
Speaker 1:I just did a 40 mile loop around a 14er. It never went to the top.
Speaker 2:Oh, you're so funny. I mean, the thing was actually we're all just trying to save money, like we've all just been like overspending or have had like surprises from a financial standpoint, and so we decided to cancel the trip. And I was like, well, I feel just in the times that, like I get to have my nephews or that I spend time with whoever's like kids like that are very important to me, or whatever, I just can see how much these like parents are tapped out. I mean not tapped out, but because they're very present, but like they just have a lot on their shoulders. And so, anyways, I encouraged my girlfriends. I was like, well, if you still have the weekend though, like just come over, we'll have a slumber party.
Speaker 2:And then my neighbor came over, who's like a very good friend of mine, and her friend was in town, and so we just brought everybody together and it was fucking amazing, like at one point I was in the kitchen and it was just so loud in here. It was like amazing, I love it, it was only four of us and it was just so loud in here. It was like amazing, I love it, it was only four of us and it was so loud. And then we took it up to the roof and we were so loud and we were laughing and having a good old time.
Speaker 1:Because, yeah, it's so fun and you should have mic'd that shit up. I bet you that was funny as fuck.
Speaker 2:I know, but I didn't have all the my god, you would only want to know. Yes, of course you would want to know it was good stuff we were talking about? Yeah, all kinds of things, oh all kinds of things. I can only imagine we were talking about how much we all love the meat the meat bib the hot dog bib.
Speaker 1:I like that you're leaning into the hot dog lady thing you're gonna be. You're gonna be e the hot dog bib. I like that you're leaning into the hot dog lady thing. You're going to be E the hot dog girl. I'm Joel with the epic beard game. You're going to be E with the.
Speaker 2:She loves her meat.
Speaker 1:She loves her meat, the sausage queen.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because it's weird If only people on our online profiles.
Speaker 1:I swear to God, I was thinking about this today. All we see on online dating is these glimpses of human beings and some are fucking look great and are awful people. And some look awful and are great people and some look fucking normal and that normal is not cool.
Speaker 2:On the apps but they have no idea that like. So I should just have one of me chowing down on that big ass hot dog.
Speaker 1:I just think I don't even know how I feel. First of all, we are not giving up on the dating discussions because dating is such a junk show and it's so funny. So we are keeping the Love Laugh Lounge. It's going to be more organized. I've got some big ideas. We're going to figure this out as we go. I told Emanuela when she came on board as my co-host which I'm very blessed was that we get 52 episodes to figure it out. We're now on. This is episode 33. We're not just like abandoning the online.
Speaker 2:This is my lucky number 33. 33. Yeah, because of Patrick Waugh.
Speaker 1:That's when Jesus died. That's his number.
Speaker 2:Oh my God. You and the death. What is up with this right now? Wait a second. Why you and the death? What is up with this right now?
Speaker 1:Wait a second. Why is this on the forefront of your mind? So every episode after this is after Christ.
Speaker 2:Oh, shut the fuck up, I'm going to hell.
Speaker 1:We can talk about religion on this podcast too.
Speaker 2:Patrick Waugh, the old Avs goalie from back in the day.
Speaker 1:Patrick Waugh, he was number 33.
Speaker 2:That's where my number comes from. That the day 33. He was number 33. That's where my number comes from. That's cool yeah.
Speaker 1:So Love Laugh Lounge we're keeping Love Laugh Lounge.
Speaker 1:I got this vision of it being like bringing more people in the lounge and having it like more. I don't think I ever structured it right and I think, have you ever seen? You probably don't watch this podcast, but I've seen little glimpses of it, particularly on instagram. It's called whatever and it's a terrible. It's fucking funny but I don't listen to it a lot, but it's basically these two dudes and this girl and then like they bring only fans, girls on and then they just like him on a round table and like basically he makes either like they either destroy themselves on themselves Because the three hosts are very smart and they just call these girls out on their shit.
Speaker 1:But it has to do with dating and blah, blah, blah. I don't envision having a hostile place, but I do envision. I really love the idea of the festivus of dating, coming on and talking about it and then also dating. So we, manuel and I, went to a fucking mixer the two birds fit mixer which was fun till you irish combined me. You were busy. I know I was busy hitting on girls I had places to be you did.
Speaker 1:Uh, so we got the two birds fit woman k Karen to come on. She's going to come on and I think she'll be one of our early midlife uncensored guests and she can talk. I'm hoping she'll talk about how she started it. What she sees in this sort of Because Two Birds Fit is very my experience was it was the 30 to 45, 50-year-olds, so like more age appropriate it was a really good event, though I feel like props to them.
Speaker 2:They had over 200 people come, so it's also really cool. I've really I don't know how long they've been around, but they just do a really nice job. The mixer was awesome, and what I liked about it is you can select like your is it like sexual preferences or whatever? So they give you like a name badge that kind of gives you a clue into that.
Speaker 1:And your kinks. I don't remember writing my kinks down. I don't think they.
Speaker 2:No, they didn't do that. I'm like what Did you just add that onto your name tag? Yeah, yeah, I wrote all my kinks down in fine print so girls were standing there and they're trying to read my name tag, or they're like you like what I'm like? Oh yeah you should have put it on your shorts. You should have put the name tag on your shorts yeah, no, no, I enjoyed that it was a good, it was a really good event they did a really nice job.
Speaker 2:So if you're in Denver, definitely check out some of their events, because they do. Most of them are workouts like speed dating workouts, but they did a fishing whatever event last week, I think, and then they did this mixer.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they did yoga the other day. I don't think it's like super extreme either, but yeah, she does a good job. It's not like it's well put, it's well put together, well organized. I think she's also figuring out as she goes to and like. But I think people are craving anything but the apps. These days, the apps have just like I finally admit that like I'm still on one app, but like they're fucking ridiculous. They're just stupid. It's just stupid to be on them now.
Speaker 2:Can we also talk about how men always add height to their height?
Speaker 1:They always add height to their height Add inches to their height. We can, as long as we can talk about women reducing their age.
Speaker 2:Who oh my God.
Speaker 1:Well, so do men.
Speaker 2:Men do that too. I don't.
Speaker 1:I don't know. Let's not lie on the apps.
Speaker 2:Can we not?
Speaker 1:And can we take normal photos? For fuck's sakes, nobody's fooling with the fucking photo. Down, looking down, putting it above your head, and looking down and like in the filters, and like the one where I have to figure out who the fuck your friends are like. If it's all you and your friends, I'm gonna ask, I'm gonna, I'm gonna be like that chick's hot, and if it's not, you can't take offense to that. Because yeah, no, that's very fair. Fucking. Where's waldo? Or like the sunglasses thing, I get it Colorado, like we wear sunglasses a lot, but have somebody take a picture of you without your sunglasses, okay, I clearly haven't learned my lesson about drinking wine during our sessions.
Speaker 1:I thought you were going to drink wine at all anymore.
Speaker 2:I know Because you got so fucking over it last time I opened a bottle at one point recently and thought I needed to finish it tonight. At least I didn't finish it all in one night. I've had a glass here and there.
Speaker 1:That's all right. Now I'm going to finish it tonight. I would never judge your drinking.
Speaker 2:I judge my drinking.
Speaker 1:I judge my drinking enough. That's why I'm not judging your drinking either. I don't want anybody to judge my drinking.
Speaker 2:My rule is I don't drink and drive. So no drinking and driving no more than two drinks.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, yeah, I try not to drink, unless it's like high noons.
Speaker 2:High noons are like water, but even then I try not to because that's not good.
Speaker 1:Drinking and driving is so moino.
Speaker 2:No, it's not necessary either, with all the Anyways.
Speaker 1:We have like all these. So, okay, midlife people, let's talk about all the things, right? So we're just I'm just going to go through a bunch of shit. Okay, you have kids, you fell out of love, you're not getting the, you're not like, maybe you're killing it, Maybe you're not. Social media, ethical, non-monogamy, ethical, non-monogamy, kinks, fucking, cheating, fucking, all of the things we're gonna. We're gonna just get into all of it and we're gonna just have discussions about all the midlife things. Like I.
Speaker 1:I just think that our generation, like our, we're going our is different than our parents generation and the generation below us is going to be different than our generation and this is a podcast for millennials and early Gen X. This is what it is and all of the things that we're going through. When we started the Own and Loan, it was all about solitude and owning your alone and owning a relationship with yourself, which is still. The cornerstone of our ethos Is that we're both still big believers in mental health. There's going to be a mental health promotion and ethos to our podcast.
Speaker 1:We're going to bring in mental health experts from time to time to talk about, you know, real shit that people our age go through, so it's going to go from funny and hilarious to fucking off to serious shit at times and, um, that's how it should be, because that is how our lives are. I mean, at the same time, like we're at that age, unfortunately, where we're starting to lose people we love, or our people that we love are losing their people. Um, you know, are some of you are shipping your kids off to school, to college, and you're becoming empty nesters, and some of you are shipping your kids off to school, to college, and you're becoming empty nesters, and some of you are just having your first kids as geriatric parents and so there's this broad spectrum of things to talk about.
Speaker 1:And then there's just like all the new shit right, and I'll get into some of the stuff I'm seeing. I'm experimenting or at least like dipping my toes in like the I don't know the E&M space, not that I know, think I belong there, but I'm like a little curious to know, to get to know these people's world better, and I have been over the last couple months and I'm like, wow, these people, like these people are testing the traditional model of relationships and what I've found thus far. Whether it's right for me or not, I'm not quite sure. I think I'm, probably I'm a monogamous type person. If I meet my person, I think, but I don't know yet. But like, very clearly, a lot of these people on here are lovers. They're just like full of love and we'll talk about shit like that.
Speaker 1:Like nothing's off the table. So I think let's talk about it all and then let's make fun of the other generations. Let's have that be a thing. Let's make fun of boobers and fucking Gen Z Because why not?
Speaker 2:And then I want to what is the definition again, or what's the cutoff for Gen Z?
Speaker 1:For Gen Z.
Speaker 2:Yeah, do you know what that is?
Speaker 1:I don't know, don't you have alexa? Ask alexa. Oh god, now you called her. Hey, siri, what's the cutoff for gen z? Gen z was born between 1997 and 2012, so they can be as young. They can be as old as 27 and as young as 12. Really, that's Gen Z, so.
Speaker 2:I'm guessing the person that I was with rude. So I got to spend some really good quality time with a coworker last week and I'm pretty sure she's Gen Z and we don't have a ton of employees, so if any of them are listening they will know who she is. So I'm going to keep it light. But I was like really impressed with her perspective of I don't know. It was just really fascinating to me, cause I feel like where, like, how much we can learn and differentiate across generations too, is pretty interesting, and I think it's really cool to see some of the deductions or things that she thinks about. And I'm like, damn girl, like you are so ahead of the game. Like it took me over 30, maybe 35, even 40 years to get to what she's like saying out loud. I don't know, it's just pretty cool.
Speaker 1:So I think there's a lot of really cool. Well, they've been very centered on mental health.
Speaker 2:I know, but I think that is so cool. Almost to the point, though, where because I know we've talked about the whole oh my gosh, what is the book? Oh God, you did a whole, like there was a whole episode that you did before I was your co-host about.
Speaker 1:Oh, the Subtle Art of Not Giving a Fuck.
Speaker 2:No, the one about over. Oh nope, I'm screwing this up. I'm not remembering it correctly. No, give me a second. It's the one where it's like about the kids being over. Oh my God, why can I not think?
Speaker 1:of any words right now, the one by Abby Schreier Schreiber. Whatever her name is, oh Too.
Speaker 2:Much Therapy, bad Therapy.
Speaker 1:Bad Therapy, thank you, yeah, okay, she's very controversial, by the way.
Speaker 2:Oh, because you shared the bad therapy episode with me. She was on Mark Manson.
Speaker 1:I didn't even know she was controversial when I read the book and did that podcast and then people are like she's super conservative which she clearly is but the book actually made a lot of sense to me.
Speaker 2:Well, but it was interesting to me because I also have friends that have. I was really interested. I have a friend whose kids are in therapy, and so I was asking what her experience has been wondering is too much therapy going to be a bad thing at some point, or are these kids going to come out so far ahead once they're adults? It'll be interesting to see, I guess.
Speaker 1:I agree with her I mean, this is a whole other podcast itself but my personal belief is that there is too much therapy and I think therapy. I think that self-diagnosis is a problem and I think hiding behind your mental illness is a problem. Yeah, I don't, but I don't know. I think it. I think what I took from the book is that the people that actually do have mental illness are the ones that are not being. They're not getting the attention. Yeah, and there's this. Ones that are not being, that are not getting the attention. Yeah, and there's this. There's just a lot of more mental health professionals that are making a living off of particularly younger ones, that are making a living off of doing remote therapy yeah to people that don't have mental health illnesses and they're like an annuity but that's not my problem.
Speaker 2:Would you say, sorry I'm hopping around. Would you say, like when we want to interview people? I think for me as we go forward do? I want to interview people from gen z no no, I was going to ask you a question and then I was going to answer it before I even asked you the question, so I'm stopping myself. It's a question, so would you say that? What do you hope out of the interviews? Is that what is the outcome that you want when we interview people like going forward?
Speaker 1:I mean what's?
Speaker 2:the kind of what's the feel you want for these episodes.
Speaker 1:I mean I think it goes back to what I always wanted when I interviewed people in the previous podcast was I think we we need to make a. We need to make a point to our interviewees before we even book them that we expect honesty and vulnerability and we need real people. We need real talk. We need real people to come on here and talk about real things. Like I don't want anything superficial, like you and I aren't having superficial conversations. They can be fun, but if you're not going to talk about it's impossible to normalize the things that people are going on. If the people that are coming on here and including ourselves, we have to hold ourselves accountable aren't aren't being vulnerable does that mean that you need to like?
Speaker 1:sabotage your relationships or your fucking career? No, but you need to like. Sabotage your relationships or your fucking career? No, but you need to come on and talk, have the fucking audit, have the courage to come on and be honest, because the reality is, everybody appreciates honesty and I think it makes you. If you're a man, it makes you a bigger man. If you're a woman, it makes you a stronger woman. There's no reason that we can't come on and talk about our things and be vulnerable and be honest about it, so that we can have a real discussion about the things.
Speaker 2:And we're not mental health professionals, but so we might not have a solution. But I do think that you and I have interesting perspective, or, and sometimes I don't know I just think, even if, at the end of the day, there isn't a solution or a silver lining to something that you're going through, it sometimes just feels good to know that you're not alone in going through it, and you might be able to offer that to someone else too right. By sharing your story.
Speaker 1:I don't think our job is to solve anything. I think our job is to incite a discussion about it and hold ourselves accountable and also challenge our guests to be real and ask them hard questions without being gotcha type people, which neither one of us are. So I think that it's an open space. It's a safe space for people to come on and talk about things, but you're on record.
Speaker 2:I think that's a hard thing for some people to do. I mean when I was interviewing people, a lot of people backed out.
Speaker 1:I think when the moment came, and it sucks too, so we're not always going to interview people but I would like to do that more.
Speaker 2:Um, I've got some friends that have asked about doing it. I've reached out to some others about because I think they have some interesting stories to share and I don't know that people will be comfortable. And that's totally okay too, like I think it's. It takes some getting used to like putting yourself out there. Uh, you have to be okay with the fact that some people might not be okay with it yeah, and that's hard to overcome. So definitely, there's zero judgment.
Speaker 1:If somebody does not want to come on or share their story, that's totally understandable I think we should have a high bar for people to come on and be on the podcast. I do, because I one I want to reserve space for professionals to come on. I think where, like people that are like the two birds, like Karen from Turbo, edge Fit and like also like, definitely, our peers but I think we need to set the bar high and just remind people we're working through this. That's why we're doing this on air. Set the bar high. But also I think there's an opportunity too for people that don't want to come on to write us, slip into our DMs and explain anonymously what your problem is and we'll bring it up as a topic. We won't name you, but then he and I can have a discussion about it, or maybe we'll bring on a professional to talk about it.
Speaker 1:So we certainly encourage people to write in and tell us what the fuck you're going on. What's going on? We have listeners across the world, which is fun, not just at E's family in. Italy in Russia or wherever the hell you just said oh my God, who else?
Speaker 2:Somebody else? Oh yeah, my friend, a friend that was just here, somebody that I met through my neighbor, but she's in. I always screw this up cause they're from Chicago. I think she's in Milwaukee, but she's, could you see, I've been listening.
Speaker 1:Can you see I'm like no. Could you see I've been listening. Can you see I'm like no. I mean we can see the cities.
Speaker 2:We can't tell who or whatever, but yeah, so I'm always curious, but I love when I run into someone that I haven't seen in a long time, they're like can you tell that? I've been listening and I'm like? No, I've not like, but I love it. I love that people are listening.
Speaker 1:So yeah, I mean everybody that listens, that has like taught, gave us feedback, likes the podcast. So I'm hoping that this new, this new brand, or like the, the progression now will be lighter, it'll be easier, it'll be more fun. Um, I enjoyed the insecurities series, but I told you this offline that I felt like I was we're definitely stretching, definitely stretching my limits, and I'm not a mental health professional and I just felt I did feel bored with it by the end.
Speaker 2:I just felt like we're not, we don't have all the answers. I think that's the point. Like we don't, I'll tell you, or anybody who wants to listen, what has worked for me, but I don't have the answers and I'm not a mental health professional, but I've tried to. I try to show up as my best, the best version of myself, for myself and for everybody in my life and for work and for all the things. So I make it a priority to learn and to learn about myself and to unpack the things that make me show up in ways that I don't like, so that I can undo that and show up as a better person. So I'm happy to share that. But like to sit there and talk about I don't know like I'm with you.
Speaker 2:I love being able to share perspective, but I think what's like more meaningful for people or at least how I learn is like real life experiences, like we're just going through it, Like we don't have to have all the answers. I think that's the point is, it's okay to not be okay, it's okay to not have the answers, it's okay to just be navigating this shit we call life and just try to pay to get older figure it out Like it's okay to give things space, it's okay to just be like you know what.
Speaker 2:I don't have this situation figured out, I don't like it, but I don't know what's next and just compartmentalize it and still be able to go about your day. I don't know. Those are things that go through my mind with all this and so yeah, I mean we'll dabble on the mental health stuff.
Speaker 1:We'll certainly still address it, but, like for me, I just got sick of, I just got. I'm tired of airing my fucking mental health shit on air. I want you guys to judge my mental health, by how I fucking bent and say crazy shit on this podcast, how I admit that I'm becoming a worse driver as I get older because I get less fucks.
Speaker 2:You also don't have a horn that works. I shouldn't even drive anymore. You also don't have a horn that works. Come on, let's talk about this.
Speaker 1:I know I don't have a horn, Joel. I haven't had a horn in eight years Come on my Italian, joel, I haven't had a horn in eight years. Come on, my little Brooklyn Italian ex-wife used to get so mad she's like we're going to die someday because this horn doesn't work and somebody's going to crash into us. And eight years later it still doesn't matter. I just sit behind people at the green light or on their phones and I'm just like it'd be really nice if you would fucking go.
Speaker 2:I'm going to get you an air horn. Yeah, I thought about that too.
Speaker 1:But I'm like the two things that make me so mad in life like things don't get me that mad because I have all this, because my life is so simple. Honestly, it's like things don't make me that anxious anymore because I have zero responsibilities. Can I refill you? Yeah, I'll take another high noon. I'll just keep talking here while you go get drinks. So the two things that make me really upset are driving, and I'm so bad I get just like I have zero patience for it, and in colorado is so accentuated because people here drive so awful they're just like so awful, like I don't understand what all you fucking people are doing in Colorado and why you can't just drive like somewhat aggressively, but not so aggressive that like you're going 150 miles an hour in the right lane and then the fucking like normal. There probably are peers in their 40s driving in the left lane and I don't know where they come from texas or their mass holes, from the east coast in the fucking left lane like driving 45 and then everybody's getting mad behind, like behind you and then trying to pass you and it just creates this chaos. And then don't even get me started with I-70, the worst highway in America. Do you want more pineapple? Sure, pineapple is fine. Or watermelon yeah, pineapple is fine.
Speaker 1:And then technology gets me. I mean I am so excited for AI. I have learned chat GDP and I know I talk about it on the podcast. I have learned that it just keeps getting smarter and it's unbelievable to me. Like I now talk to it like my executive assistant, I'm like I will add things in there that have nothing to do with what we're working on, just so it learns my personality and it keeps learning. And now it's. I've been trying to get my business partner to use it because I'm like dude, like you don't understand how powerful this thing is. But then when I came in today, I had a fucking Just like back in the old days, like in high school, when you lose your fucking report on Word Word still, 35 fucking years later, still functions the way it did when we were in high school on green screens that I can work on something for three goddamn hours.
Speaker 2:And I lost it today because it didn't save itself because it logged itself out, and I'm like what the fuck come on who's the guy that?
Speaker 1:who's that fucking guy? Oh, I don, I don't know. Fucking billionaire motherfucker who can't figure out how to make Microsoft Office work. Bill Gates? Oh yeah, motherfucker.
Speaker 2:You're on my shit list.
Speaker 1:I'm throwing darts at you tonight. All right, I'm done.
Speaker 2:Okay, well, bike drop, whoa you just. Yeah, that was a good tangent my wiener. Oh, oh, my God, you're killing me.
Speaker 1:This is funny, those are the only two things that make me mad in this moment, and online dating, yeah.
Speaker 2:That's three yeah. It'll keep adding up and I also want this to be a safe place for me to finally vent.
Speaker 1:I feel like.
Speaker 2:I've been holding myself back for two years. Fucking vent. What else do to be a safe place for me to finally vent?
Speaker 1:I feel like I'm holding myself back for two years, fucking vent. I don't like.
Speaker 2:I don't like other people having to deal with my problems, but this podcast, I am here for you. I am. This is what I'm made for.
Speaker 1:This is what I'm made for then hearing me for and slinging hot dogs I mean sausage girl slinging hot dogs sausage queen sorry, I yeah.
Speaker 2:Sausage girl Slinging hot dogs, sausage queen.
Speaker 1:Sorry, I don't mean to degrade you, mm-hmm, sausage woman, did you throw a hot dog at me? What?
Speaker 2:Never know when you're going to need one. Just keep it around, just sling them. I got a new hot dog apron for when I go work at the. Home Depot with my friend. You don't have to mute for that.
Speaker 1:It's very blue.
Speaker 2:I feel like my brain is a little bit tapped out. It's been a long, like couple weeks. Uh, I think we should also talk about career changes at some point too I've got it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they've got all kind of. So I wrote this yeah, keep going yeah, so we're.
Speaker 2:I mean this episode we just kind of want to tell you the direction that we're going Right. So I think career changes health and wellness. We could also do some good. We've talked about doing some book reviews. I've actually been reading some good books lately, but they're all like self-help stuff, so I feel like my brain is a little tapped out from all this self-help work.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm tired of it. I need a break.
Speaker 2:A little bit. I need a little break from I'm like haven't I done enough?
Speaker 1:yeah, I don't get much from the self-help stuff anymore, so I've been. I was gonna say this before. I don't know if you listened to Mark Manson, but Mark Manson, him and Drew, his podcast host, co-host they've been experimenting for the last year, right? So they've gotten through their whole first year of the subtle art of not giving a fuck and testing out different things, and they just their last two episodes. Now they basically like he's going back on brand because he kind of got off. I was telling you this?
Speaker 1:I was like I'm a little turned off by manson because he's just he's going off his brand and what he had written the book. So he went back on brand him and drew and it's very refreshing because he's out of all the self-help like people out there, mark manson's always been the most pragmatic and the best communicator and all that stuff. It's not the food shit, it's this is real life, yeah, so I'm excited for that. I think that's gonna be. I haven't read a good self-help book in a while. I mean one of the better ones out there that I think people should read, at least that are single or maybe in relationships. I don't know as attached as a good self-help book. Yeah, daniel Goldblum Daniel Goldman's, like emotional EQ is always a good one.
Speaker 2:It's tough to get through, but um, the ones I'm doing, I'm working on now, are probably a little more focused around business stuff. So for me, what I can't just read a book, to read it Like that's just I don't know, I just can't. It has to be something that's actually happening, that I'm it's like a problem solving type of thing for me. So it makes me feel like I'm doing something and so I've got some that I'm working on that are hopefully going to feed into my work life. So we'll see More TBD on that, more to come on that stuff.
Speaker 1:I did just finish the Four Agreements, which I thought was weird. I mean, I've been told to read that by multiple people, but it was still about too much food for me.
Speaker 2:So it's interesting on that one I I was turned on to the four agreements. I didn't read the whole book. I did watch like a YouTube video on it. It was actually part of this life coaching program that I did, so that was one of the like pieces that they shared was to watch that YouTube video, and it was essentially just sharing what the actual four agreements were. It was like a very short, condensed version of it.
Speaker 1:And.
Speaker 2:I feel like it's a good. I feel like the agreements itself are good rules to have in mind.
Speaker 1:Um no, I agree with that.
Speaker 2:I agree with that, but I don't know that I needed a whole book to explain it.
Speaker 1:I mean, the book is short, it's big.
Speaker 2:It's like very short. You can get very short.
Speaker 1:You can get through it. I read it during my backpacking trip. That wasn't a big deal, I think. For me it's just I struggle with, I meditate and I have mala beads and I do my mantras and stuff. I'm not religious about it. I don't know whether it really grounds me or not, but I'm just one of those people that I don't have a lot of. I don't have an affinity for the like, the spirituality stuff, even though I feel like.
Speaker 1:I'm somewhat spiritual. I mean, I think I'm a unique person in the sense that like I meditate, I have mala beads, I find I reflect and do all that stuff, but I I don't. One, I don't talk about it a lot. And two, there just seems to be like this need for certain people to just take the spirituality thing to like this. It's like a personality trait, right, just like it is, like some people's, I don't know, it's just the spiritual thing I think is for me is I've made it what works for me. And then I struggle. What was I going to? I struggle with. The reason I struggle with the four agreements is just how it's being told.
Speaker 2:How the?
Speaker 1:and like the backstory was a problem with me. It's the same thing that, like I really struggled with Eckhart Tolle's books. Yeah, like I can't, I get it live in the now. I understood the concept but I'm like I can't reconcile and I know he does. I just never really could reconcile with living in the now without and not dealing with the past and the future. And not I, just my brain can never not deal with the past and the future. I'm never in the now, I'm always in the future or the past. I can't, I don't know. That's an impossible cycle for me to try to break and I just don't think it's ever going to happen. So I need to learn to live better in the past and the future. So I have a hard time living in the now.
Speaker 1:Everything's in the future for me, and it's based on the past.
Speaker 2:I can't, so that's not gonna happen yeah, I mean, I can appreciate that too and I've had similar struggles. So I think that is that you touched on a few different things, and I think spirituality, religion, all those things I think everyone has their own thing that works for them. Same with really like nutrition or probably just about any other topic. It's like really, at the end of the day, like something that works for me may not work for you, but I want to share what works for you. Then I'll share that. I'll share more of it. Right, it's like more of just like exposing people to different solutions or different possibilities, different perspectives, to help through all the noise and chaos that is middle-aged life or just adulthood in general. So I don't know, but in terms of the meditation thing and all of that, it, yeah, it's interesting. It like as soon as you brought up your what is it mala?
Speaker 2:beads reminds me of lary.
Speaker 1:That's what it is right it looks like a long chain yeah long chain.
Speaker 2:it reminded me it because I remember seeing your mala beads at your house and it reminded me of the rosary I had growing up and I used to say a rosary every night, but it was like meditation for me because it's just on repeat. Anyways, that's just like a random little thought. Did you grow up religious?
Speaker 1:I mean, we grew up, yeah, but not like, well, my parents grew up very religious Lutheran, strict Lutheran, and then I was sort of raised in a Moravian which was like sort of more liberal Lutheran, and then we were given the choice to.
Speaker 1:Once we got confirmed, we were told we didn't have to. We could make the choice of whether we wanted to go to church again or not. We could make the choice of whether we wanted to go to church again or not and once I got confirmed, I never went to church again until, like, I started to go to Christmas service with my sister and her family, my mom and I, since my dad died, and that's been meaningful. But I still find myself praying to God sometimes, even though fundamentally I don't believe in God in the context that religious people do at all. I'm just not. I'm just too. I have a physics background and stuff. I don't, I just don't. We can talk about religion. We could do a. I would love to do a podcast on.
Speaker 1:I'm a big sci-fi geek but like I do have a spiritual edge to me, I do find comfort in praying. I think it's maybe just because that's the way I grew up, but I don't actually think that there's somebody sitting there listening like pulling the strings. I don't think that's the way it works, and religion has done so much damage to the human beings it's done a lot of. I mean, people find comfort in religion where they don't find comfort elsewhere, and being a human being is not easy. Being any sort of living being is not easy. I don't think it was meant to be easy. Uh, so I understand why people find comfort in religion, and I would never take that away from human beings. Where I get upset is when people use religion as a weapon or a means to create hate, which almost brings you to the fact that maybe it's maybe good versus evil. It's interesting how it's so transparently plays out with religion.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And just people in general are just, we're just stupid. I mean human beings aren't that fucking smart.
Speaker 2:I used to think about I still think about this sometimes, but I'm like I feel like we're all running around this earth and we're all just like little ants on this anthill or something, and then I look at an actual anthill and I'm like what if we're just ants on another ant? I don't know, is there really meaning?
Speaker 1:Do you think these little ants think that they have meaning?
Speaker 2:No, do you think that these ants are reborn reborn into other, I don't know. Are we, is there, I, I don't know. It's just so weird to me, it's there is no meaning. What the fuck are we actually doing? And then I'm looking at my house and I'm like we've, just I've.
Speaker 2:I have this, all these walls around me, and I have these blue lights above the cabinets and I have these flowers in here and I have all this shit and I'm like, what the fuck am I doing? I don't know. Sometimes I'm just like I don't get it. What the fuck are we doing?
Speaker 1:I mean, I think that, oh, I go on about this forever but like sorry to throw this curveball at you, but no, I mean, I think this is interesting thing that you think about in midlife.
Speaker 1:You have enough education and give less fucks enough to have an intelligent conversation about what our purpose is. And if you were to ask me what I believe our purpose is, I believe we don't have a purpose. I don't believe that people have a purpose. I don't believe there's some divine meaning. I think that we're a universal. The universe, multiple universes you want to go there Like it's all one big equation and all this shit is playing out. I do think fundamentally that living things have one purpose and that's to survive and grow, and that's clearly playing out with all species and all insects, with all species and all insects you can watch it with all plants and everything has the innate desire if not like wiring to survive and that's why we like, keep growing and replicating and we're probably going to find our you know, advanced species, find themselves off the planet and expand into their galaxies and do all these things. I'm guarantee you, even though I don't know have the facts, is happening. We just can't see it because the universe is so fucking big.
Speaker 1:I was just thinking about this the other day. I wanted to say this, and I don't think a lot of people know this, but the first thing that another species is going to hear, the first recording, the frequency that went out in space is 19,. I think it was 1938. It was fucking Adolf Hitler. It was the first radio frequency. It was the Germans during World War. I think it was pre-World War II. It was a recording of Adolf Hitler saying I forget what he was saying, but that's the first thing that an advanced species from another planet is going to hear is fucking Hitler.
Speaker 2:And then, by the way, Dark Side of the Moon.
Speaker 1:Well, if they were listening back then I don't know Like frequency travels at the speed of light.
Speaker 2:So if it's, what was that?
Speaker 1:1938 is say give or take 85 years. Okay. So if that planet is 85 light years away and it's hearing it right now, it's hearing Adolf Hitler from 1938, and then it's going to respond and our kids are going to hear them be like what the? Fuck was this guy Hitler talking about? And then from there it's going to radio as we're made and they're going to keep receiving stuff.
Speaker 1:So if they keep listening, hopefully within a few weeks they'll realize that they're. You know, within a couple years of listening to this, that more shit will come down the pike, my God, and then they'll eventually catch up to all the nonsense that's out there. Now, I mean, the freaking space is littered with our fucking. I mean fucking. Elon musk sent a goddamn convertible out into space, so, or a tesla, or whatever he sent out there. The voyager has is it dark side of the moon or led zeppelin? There's a record on there. There's a golden record with all of our different music on it. That I think is cool. And the voyager is now outside of the solar system, so that shit's cool but, it's still so close relative to what that's.
Speaker 1:What people don't realize is like the speed of light is three million something meters per second, or killing you like it's crazy how far distance wise. It's uncomprehend. This is what I loved about.
Speaker 2:Physics is like we should have is like how uncomprehensible.
Speaker 1:These distances are like people don't understand, like the reason that we haven't had an interaction with another species from another planet isn't because they don't exist. It's because fucking space is so goddamn big that it's a needle in a haystack.
Speaker 2:And then the timing, I know, but that's why I'm like aren't we just like little ants out here, like how we consider ants? Isn't that just what we are in the grand scheme of the?
Speaker 1:I do think we're ants, but I also think that I also believe that we're very unique in the sense that we're on the precipice of creating artificial intelligence, which will ultimately create fusion power, which will ultimately create a machine--based species, which I think I believe you'll hear this from me all the time and I don't know why we went on this time you know, but that's where all advanced species go, is they go from organic to machine. Because that's how you stop, that's how you make time not be an issue anymore. And I think that there's species out there where time isn't an issue. Time doesn't register with them, because they've. It's different relative to like our time, like our bodies die, but probably there's species out there that don't they, they've downloaded their consciousness into something that makes that doesn't die, so they don't die.
Speaker 1:It's I know it sounds crazy, but it's true. It's probably true.
Speaker 2:I'll put my money on it you I I'll put my money on it interesting to me, though, like I like the, I don't know. That's just like really interesting. I don't even know where to begin unless we're gonna go down a really deep rabbit hole here. We probably shouldn't do it the first episode. What is this midlife on center? Talk about ai.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I will say that I think we're the last, our generation, this generation, this midlife uncensored generation. We're either the last generation to die or the first generation to live forever.
Speaker 2:Oh shit, oh, look at you. Mic drop Whoop Don't hit your.
Speaker 1:My pen is Shit.
Speaker 2:There was something else I was going to tell you and I totally spaced on it now.
Speaker 1:Don't give me an opening, I'll just keep filling it.
Speaker 2:Damn it.
Speaker 1:I did tell you about, I do want to do On a regular frequency. I want to do the. What did I call it? The? No, I wanted to.
Speaker 2:Blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 1:Midlife histories. Midlife histories when we bring boomers on.
Speaker 2:And interview them and ask them about their midlife crisis. Hell yeah, and also, it's the only time we'll encourage boomers to be on our podcast.
Speaker 1:Yes, I've got just the people.
Speaker 2:I've got just the people, but also I'm trying to not use the word, but Okay.
Speaker 1:We're just going to.
Speaker 2:Oh crap.
Speaker 1:So there's this guy.
Speaker 2:Wait, wait.
Speaker 1:I told you I would have fill the space stop it, stop it.
Speaker 2:Um, god damn it. I keep saying okay, what about having people come on and talk about, uh, ghost stories and why?
Speaker 1:not yeah, ghosts, there's people that are connected to other spirits probably already podcasts that do that, no, but we can just have some fun episodes.
Speaker 2:I have a coworker who's going to come on.
Speaker 1:And would the podcast be about how they're crazy?
Speaker 2:They're not crazy.
Speaker 1:They might be. They're not crazy, we don't know. I'm going to challenge them.
Speaker 2:He's not crazy. Well, I don't know Also.
Speaker 1:I have a medium. I'm not quite sure we're that kind of podcast.
Speaker 2:I have my medium that I love. I love her very much.
Speaker 1:Unless it's impacting their midlife crisis.
Speaker 2:She helped me in my midlife crisis. I mean she continues to help me, because I feel like I'm probably still in it a little bit.
Speaker 1:Boy. That's the thing about, that's the real secret about midlife crisis is because it's not just a crisis it's a shift in our mental health oh great that there's, a certain level of expect.
Speaker 2:There's a certain level of crazy that comes with being getting older she just was able to share a lot of really interesting perspective and some facts about things that happened that I don't know how otherwise she would have known them. I think she's legit and I think.
Speaker 1:She can bring her Ouija board.
Speaker 2:No, no, ouija boards, don't be a dick.
Speaker 1:Well, I'm judging her, don't? I'm trying not to. I think my People see dead people, sure. I'm agnostic. Think my people see dead people, sure.
Speaker 2:I'm agnostic.
Speaker 1:I don't know what happens when you die. I also think that we should do. We gotta have a regular thing that we do on the show and one of the things I was thinking about none of this stuff is set in stone is like having ending the show or starting the show with a like a nostalgia excuse me, like a midlife nostalgic thing for our generation. I think it's fun to talk about when we were younger. Quote unquote there's a guy I follow. He's gen x, so he does what we do for gen x. He's called the dad bod veteran. I love this guy and he does this that every day, where he takes these clips from primarily from Gen Z and then it was and then makes fun of them in a nice way. He's not like a dick. Sometimes he's a dick but it's funny. But he also like posts, all this stuff about growing up in the seventies and eighties, which I think was a unique. I think that Gen Z has no idea.
Speaker 1:Idea like just the way we were like you guys didn't have tvs, our parents you know, like we had fucking wooden tvs that came in a fucking huge 300 pound box and you had to look in god like blake was talking about it last night, or maybe it was somebody else were probably because that's the rotator, like oh yeah or no. It wasn't because my tv was heavy mike was talking about the rotators, the ears, the rabbit ears.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, oh yes, because we were talking about how to get football. Yes, yep, yep, but I thought it came because that TV was heavy for being flat. I mean, it's an old TV, so that's why it went outside.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we were laughing about that.
Speaker 2:actually it's pretty heavy yeah, it's old it's it's like 12 years old, so why not throw that outside? I mean, I was gonna donate it, so why not? So now I have two tvs on my rooftop.
Speaker 1:Whoa, that was loud sorry, even like things like smoking in bars or oh my god, smoking in bars, holy shit, remember. You go out, come home and like shower you had to like shower.
Speaker 2:Watch all your clothes so disgusting. You felt like you had three inches of smoke on your skin I mean, we were crazy, we drank fucking cigarette smoking I don't know.
Speaker 1:But so like a nostalgia tour, like my other things and my tab at the end of the night would be like $22. I'm like yeah, and that was back before credit cards too. You had to go to an ATM, yeah um, what about?
Speaker 2:what food did you eat late night? Yeah see, we could have some fun. What did you? What food did you eat?
Speaker 1:when you got home from the bars 7-Eleven taquitos 7-Eleven taquitos.
Speaker 2:We had the hot dog shop when I lived in.
Speaker 1:Capitol Hill. It was Benny.
Speaker 2:Blanco's man. I wonder if that's still open the hot dog shop Benny Blanco just closed too, and that was an era.
Speaker 1:It was a little pizza shop.
Speaker 2:It was real there in cap hill, and the fucking people making the pizzas were complete assholes and they were up until three in the morning. Or jerusalem's was good. Hold, please hang on, we're gonna. What did you know that there's? Did you know that there's gourmet hot dogs nearby here? What the fuck? Hang on, a second, we're going to need to. Whoa, it says it's at Elitch Gardens, though. The fuck. Hot dog restaurant at Elitch. Okay, I don't want to go to Elitch Gardens. Okay, but we had the hot dog shop. I'm pretty sure that's what it was called Hot dog restaurant at Elitch. Okay, I don't want to go to Elitch Gardens. Okay, but we had the hot dog shop. I'm pretty sure that's what it was called Hot dog, I'm looking it up. You guys Shop, not shot. Hot dog shop, hot dog shop. And then we had Papa John's. I can still remember the phone number, 678-050.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, papa John's.
Speaker 2:I bet you Should we try calling them.
Speaker 1:No, you can call them.
Speaker 2:Don't you remember prank calling?
Speaker 1:Did you ever order a pizza and then pass out for the pizza like that there?
Speaker 2:no, but my friend actually got shut down from pizza hut. They stopped delivering to her because she did that too many, at least twice in my life too, I've uh, okay, we're getting the end of this at least twice in my life now I have.
Speaker 1:When was younger, I put a frozen pizza in the oven and passed out.
Speaker 2:Oh no.
Speaker 1:Turned into black pie.
Speaker 2:Well, you're lucky it didn't catch on fire. Dude, what the heck.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, all right, we should end this. We're not going to have any music or any sort of ending. We forgot to tell you guys, do you have anything profound you want to say before in this?
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